>Personally I hadn't got you down as 'one of them', so (to me at least) you obviously don't bang on in a preaching-stylee about how we are all missing the point and our lives aren't complete without the arcane knowledge.

Well put 4W - my feelings exactly. And it's not the only thing you talk about, Rune. And you don't talk about it ALL the time!!!!

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Moth