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On the one hand you:

"agree absolutely that crowding and concrete breed psychoses, and gardening is good for you, and modern life can be bad for us as it can engender unhealthy attitudes and we're not well equipped for it. And I agree that a simple rural life is probably what we're naturally designed for and the best thing for us."

On the other hand you mistrust:

"the concept that we've lost something, lost our way, had a biblical fall, made a huge Copeic mistake."

There's a massive contradiction inherent in what you're saying. If the "simple rural life is... the best thing for us" then "crowding and concrete" must, of necessity, be a loss. This is just simple logic.

I never postulated a golden age. The phrase "oneness with nature" was your terminology, not mine. I only bounced it back at ya! ;)

Absolutely, there's a contradiction but if we're talking about our nature it has to be one or the other and I take the optimistic view that we haven't lost our original nature it just gets twisted by our concrete environment. Of course cities are bad for us, but away from them and the rat race we usually become different, nicer people, more at peace. So the "loss" isn't an absolute one. To me that's different from a true fall.