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tjj wrote: TheStandingStone wrote: faerygirl wrote: CianMcLiam wrote: Same story here, incredibly he tried to tell me it was gone, then it was never there, eventually 'there's no visitors anyway'... That was way back in 2004 or 2005. Technically there is supposed to be a right of way along the banks of rivers (one passes near the tomb) but you would still be trespassing at the site itself. SURELY they cant do that?? Its not THEIR monument!! I would be climbing fences, and if he wants to phone the police then they can come and get me, you shouldn't be allowed to stop people from seeing these things, they are sacred to some of us OOOOOOOOOOO this guy has made me so mad I feel like booking a ticket to Ireland, watch if I dont get my photo gggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Well he owns the land so he is perfectly within his rights to refuse access however disappointing that may be. Here, the owner had much more control over his/her land than in Britain. We have very little 'ramblers rights' and although all ancient sites are protected by law very few are in State ownership. As for the sites being sacred...there really aren't that many neo-pagans in Ireland...I have never bumped into any. I'm sure others with more experience of these sites in Ireland have met some but really it's still a Catholic country so only a handful would consider them 'sacred'. I haven't commented on this as it seems to relate mainly to Ireland - I think you have thrown light on the issue, a completely different mind-set. I have an Irish parent so do have an insight into how deep Catholicism runs in countries like Ireland and Italy. On the other hand Ireland seems to have a far more enlightened approach to 'treasure hunting/metal detecting'. Swings and roundabouts. That's why the introduction of Catholocism in Ireland was initially so successful. It was tailored to appeal to the existing Celtic Druidic mind set i.e. a heroic dying warrior/god who suffers and triumphs, miracles (supernatural) etc. It slotted into and replaced the existing belief system prevelant in the heroic tales and story cycles. As with our ancient sacred places, and godesses eg. Brigid/Mary etc etc. Ireland, having remained at the edge of Europe and retaining it's own individual Celtic culture, was prime fertile territory for encroachment of Christianity. Reply | with quote |  18th January 2010ce 09:55 In reply to: Re: Owner refusing access... (tjj) |
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