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Or a driven pendulum for that matter.. both are chaotic systems in that they have unpredictable, non-linear outcomes. But in the simpler case of the pendulum it's behaviour is described by Newtonian mechanics that have a long track record of being tested and reproduced... the fact that the long term behaviour is sensitive to the initial position of the pendulum does not nullify Newtonian mechanics, i.e. small errors in the initial position of the pendulum propagate through over time. The weather just has a hell of a lot more variables.

Yes, chaotic behaviour can arise from deterministic systems but I'm not sure how any of this gets dowsing in the back door?

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Posted by TheBear
5th April 2006ce
07:56

(jshell, Apr 04, 2006, 17:30)

Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (TheBear, Apr 05, 2006, 07:15)
Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (Rhiannon, Apr 05, 2006, 07:23)
- Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (TheBear, Apr 05, 2006, 07:36)
  - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (FourWinds, Apr 05, 2006, 07:43)
    - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (TheBear, Apr 05, 2006, 07:56)
      - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (FourWinds, Apr 05, 2006, 08:17)
        Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (TheBear, Apr 05, 2006, 08:40)
        Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (FourWinds, Apr 05, 2006, 11:52)
        Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (TheBear, Apr 05, 2006, 12:35)
        Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (FourWinds, Apr 05, 2006, 11:57)
        Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (TheBear, Apr 05, 2006, 12:32)
        Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (TheBear, Apr 05, 2006, 08:45)
  - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (morfe, Apr 05, 2006, 07:47)
    - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (TheBear, Apr 05, 2006, 08:01)
  - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (jacksprat, Apr 05, 2006, 07:48)
    - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (Wild Wooder, Apr 05, 2006, 07:53)
      - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (jacksprat, Apr 05, 2006, 07:56)
      - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (StoneLifter, Apr 05, 2006, 08:07)
      - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (FourWinds, Apr 05, 2006, 08:19)
    - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (TheBear, Apr 05, 2006, 08:29)
Re:you want proof? (cropredy, Apr 05, 2006, 10:13)
- Re:you want proof? (Rhiannon, Apr 05, 2006, 10:45)
  - Re:you want proof? (jacksprat, Apr 05, 2006, 11:37)
    - Re:you want proof? (FourWinds, Apr 05, 2006, 11:56)
      - Re:you want proof? (jacksprat, Apr 05, 2006, 12:13)
      - Re:you want proof? (cropredy, Apr 05, 2006, 13:41)
    - Re:you want proof? (cropredy, Apr 05, 2006, 14:13)
      - Re:you want proof? (jacksprat, Apr 05, 2006, 15:06)
- Re:you want proof? (moss, Apr 05, 2006, 11:45)
  - Re:you want proof? (jacksprat, Apr 05, 2006, 12:16)
  - Re:you want proof? (nigelswift, Apr 05, 2006, 13:29)
    - Re:you want proof? (cropredy, Apr 05, 2006, 13:54)
      - Re:you want proof? (nigelswift, Apr 05, 2006, 14:18)
        Re:you want proof? (cropredy, Apr 05, 2006, 14:44)
        Re:you want proof? (nigelswift, Apr 05, 2006, 14:57)
        Re:you want proof? (Hob, Apr 05, 2006, 20:53)
        Re:you want proof? (cropredy, Apr 05, 2006, 21:12)
        Re:you want proof? (Hob, Apr 05, 2006, 21:25)
        Re:you want proof? (goffik, Apr 06, 2006, 07:06)
        Re:you want proof? (GordonP, Apr 05, 2006, 16:42)
        Re:you want proof? (FourWinds, Apr 05, 2006, 17:10)
        Re:you want proof? (GordonP, Apr 05, 2006, 18:47)
        Re:you want proof? (FourWinds, Apr 05, 2006, 18:58)
        Re:you want proof? (GordonP, Apr 05, 2006, 19:35)
        Re:you want proof? (Steve Gray, Apr 05, 2006, 20:52)
        Re:blindfold (Hob, Apr 05, 2006, 21:15)
        Re:blindfold (Steve Gray, Apr 05, 2006, 21:18)
        Re:blindfold (Hob, Apr 05, 2006, 21:27)
        Re:blindfold (Rockrich, Apr 05, 2006, 21:38)
        Re:blindfold (Hob, Apr 05, 2006, 21:45)
        Re:you want proof? (cropredy, Apr 05, 2006, 21:35)
        Piffle. (Hob, Apr 05, 2006, 21:38)
        Re: Piffle. (cropredy, Apr 05, 2006, 21:57)
        Re: Piffle. (Hob, Apr 05, 2006, 22:10)
        Re: Piffle. (goffik, Apr 05, 2006, 22:16)
        Re:you want proof? (Steve Gray, Apr 06, 2006, 16:18)
        Re:you want proof? (TheBear, Apr 06, 2006, 17:02)
        Re:you want proof? (cropredy, Apr 06, 2006, 17:27)
        Re:you want proof? (cropredy, Apr 06, 2006, 17:13)
        Re:you want proof? (nigelswift, Apr 06, 2006, 17:37)
        Re:you want proof? (cropredy, Apr 06, 2006, 18:29)
        Re:you want proof? (nigelswift, Apr 06, 2006, 18:51)
        Re:you want proof? (cropredy, Apr 06, 2006, 19:08)
        Re:you want proof? (nigelswift, Apr 06, 2006, 19:17)
        Re:you want proof? (cropredy, Apr 06, 2006, 19:26)
        Re:you want proof? (goffik, Apr 06, 2006, 18:29)
        Re:you want proof? (cropredy, Apr 06, 2006, 18:37)
        Re:you want proof? (goffik, Apr 06, 2006, 19:21)
        Re:you want proof? (cropredy, Apr 06, 2006, 19:32)
        Re:you want proof? (goffik, Apr 06, 2006, 19:38)
        Re:you want proof? (nigelswift, Apr 06, 2006, 19:42)
        Re:you want proof? (cropredy, Apr 06, 2006, 20:59)
        Re:you want proof? (goffik, Apr 06, 2006, 21:25)
        Re:you want proof? (nigelswift, Apr 06, 2006, 22:22)
        Re:you want proof? (cropredy, Apr 06, 2006, 23:23)
        Re:you want proof? (Steve Gray, Apr 07, 2006, 16:35)
        Re:you want proof? (cropredy, Apr 07, 2006, 19:03)
        Re:you want proof? (Steve Gray, Apr 07, 2006, 20:33)
    - Re:you want proof? (moss, Apr 05, 2006, 15:06)
      - Re:you want proof? (nigelswift, Apr 05, 2006, 15:12)
      - Re:you want proof? (Steve Gray, Apr 05, 2006, 21:15)
  - Re:you want proof? (goffik, Apr 05, 2006, 15:05)
    - Re:you want proof? (Rhiannon, Apr 05, 2006, 16:15)
      - Re:you want proof? (goffik, Apr 05, 2006, 16:21)
        Re:you want proof? (Hob, Apr 05, 2006, 19:53)
        Re:you want proof? (goffik, Apr 05, 2006, 20:55)
        Re:you want proof? (Hob, Apr 05, 2006, 21:09)
        Re:you want proof? (goffik, Apr 05, 2006, 21:20)
        Re:you want proof? (nigelswift, Apr 06, 2006, 01:31)
        Re:you want proof? (tiompan, Apr 06, 2006, 08:06)
        Re:you want proof? (jacksprat, Apr 06, 2006, 08:49)
        Re:you want proof? (TheBear, Apr 06, 2006, 15:25)
        Re:you want proof? (goffik, Apr 06, 2006, 15:42)
Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (The Eternal, Apr 05, 2006, 20:19)
- Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (hamish, Apr 05, 2006, 20:37)
  - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (cropredy, Apr 05, 2006, 20:49)
- Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (cropredy, Apr 05, 2006, 20:39)
  - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (goffik, Apr 05, 2006, 21:07)
    - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (cropredy, Apr 05, 2006, 22:33)
      - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (goffik, Apr 05, 2006, 22:38)
- Heading OTwards... (Hob, Apr 05, 2006, 20:47)
  - Re: Heading OTwards... (StoneLifter, Apr 05, 2006, 21:11)
    - Re: properly OT now... (Hob, Apr 05, 2006, 21:19)
      - Re: properly OT now... (StoneLifter, Apr 06, 2006, 06:43)
  - Re: Heading OTwards... (The Eternal, Apr 05, 2006, 21:33)
    - Re: Heading OTwards... (Hob, Apr 05, 2006, 21:35)
Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (Hob, Apr 05, 2006, 21:50)
- Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (The Eternal, Apr 05, 2006, 21:59)
Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (TheBear, Apr 06, 2006, 07:37)
- Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (Cursuswalker, Apr 06, 2006, 11:05)
Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (jacksprat, Apr 06, 2006, 11:57)
Can Lizards dowse? (TheBear, Apr 06, 2006, 16:53)
Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (cHARLIE, Apr 06, 2006, 17:15)
Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (TheBear, Apr 06, 2006, 18:07)
- Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (Vybik Jon, Apr 06, 2006, 18:08)
  - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (TheBear, Apr 06, 2006, 18:13)
    - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (Vybik Jon, Apr 06, 2006, 18:17)
      - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (TheBear, Apr 06, 2006, 18:24)
        Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (Vybik Jon, Apr 06, 2006, 18:29)
        Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (TheBear, Apr 06, 2006, 18:33)
        Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (goffik, Apr 06, 2006, 19:38)
        Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (Vybik Jon, Apr 07, 2006, 11:57)
Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (Wiggy, Apr 06, 2006, 19:59)
- Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (goffik, Apr 06, 2006, 20:19)
  - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (Wiggy, Apr 07, 2006, 12:24)
- Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (FourWinds, Apr 06, 2006, 20:48)
  - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (Wiggy, Apr 07, 2006, 12:37)
    - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (nigelswift, Apr 07, 2006, 12:58)
      - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (Wiggy, Apr 10, 2006, 12:13)
- Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (morfe, Apr 06, 2006, 20:49)
  - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (cropredy, Apr 06, 2006, 21:27)
  - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (Wiggy, Apr 07, 2006, 12:19)
Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (BuckyE, Apr 07, 2006, 03:30)
- Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (goffik, Apr 07, 2006, 06:32)
  - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (moss, Apr 07, 2006, 06:44)
    - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (goffik, Apr 07, 2006, 06:48)
      - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (cropredy, Apr 07, 2006, 09:14)
        Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (goffik, Apr 07, 2006, 18:35)
        Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (cropredy, Apr 07, 2006, 19:16)
  - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (Rhiannon, Apr 07, 2006, 13:32)
    - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (jimit, Apr 07, 2006, 14:45)
- Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (cropredy, Apr 07, 2006, 08:49)
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    - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (cropredy, Apr 07, 2006, 16:28)
Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (Pixxx, Apr 09, 2006, 05:45)
- Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (Steve Gray, Apr 09, 2006, 06:59)
  - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Finally! (Pixxx, Apr 09, 2006, 08:17)
- Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (TheBear, Apr 09, 2006, 08:29)
  - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (Pixxx, Apr 09, 2006, 08:33)
    - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (nigelswift, Apr 09, 2006, 09:29)
      - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (Pixxx, Apr 09, 2006, 09:48)
        Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (nigelswift, Apr 09, 2006, 15:45)
        Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (Pixxx, Apr 09, 2006, 21:36)
        Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (cropredy, Apr 09, 2006, 22:25)
        Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (nigelswift, Apr 10, 2006, 00:11)
        Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (cropredy, Apr 10, 2006, 15:59)
        Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (tiompan, Apr 10, 2006, 16:04)
        Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (cropredy, Apr 10, 2006, 21:12)
        Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (tiompan, Apr 10, 2006, 21:22)
        Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (cropredy, Apr 10, 2006, 22:26)
      - Re: Lets Blow this Dowsing Lark off Fina (BuckyE, Apr 12, 2006, 01:27)

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