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> >To me life in Western Europe is full of ritual activity and pretty devoid of spirituality. Can this be applied to the past? probably not, I think ethnological studies of none western (capitalist) societies are possibly our best chance at trying to understand Britain 5000 years ago.

>I totally agree with this. There's certainly caveats about it not being simple, but they're kind of obvious. To me the main point is that when we're looking at prehistory, there are huge, inevitable, unresolvable gaps in our image of life then. Some people cut loose and fill the gaps with wishful thinking, some hold tight and refuse to commit to anything that can't be scientifically verified. (Of course most people sit somewhere between these poles on the continuum somewhere...)

A pretty good example of an attempt to scientifically apply ethnology to archaeology is David Lewis-Williams' "The Mind in the Cave: Consciousness and the Origins of Art."

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Posted by BuckyE
15th January 2006ce
09:59

(fitzcoraldo, Jan 09, 2006, 09:31)

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        Fake it till you make it.... then laugh (fitzcoraldo, Jan 12, 2006, 21:08)
        Pete Real (morfe, Jan 12, 2006, 21:57)
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        threatened (morfe, Jan 13, 2006, 10:37)
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        name drop (fitzcoraldo, Jan 09, 2006, 13:40)
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        Pete Real (morfe, Jan 12, 2006, 22:11)
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        Real Deal (morfe, Jan 12, 2006, 23:12)
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        numinosity (morfe, Jan 13, 2006, 22:00)
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        nooo (morfe, Jan 13, 2006, 22:03)
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        PeterH (morfe, Jan 14, 2006, 13:42)
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        meaningless (morfe, Jan 14, 2006, 20:52)
        apologies (morfe, Jan 14, 2006, 20:54)
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        absolute truths (morfe, Jan 14, 2006, 21:57)
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        Re: Ritual (gyrus, Jan 14, 2006, 18:59)
        Re: Ritual (Littlestone, Jan 14, 2006, 19:41)
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        Re: Ritual (gyrus, Jan 13, 2006, 21:22)
        numinosity (PeterH, Jan 13, 2006, 21:48)
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        Gyrus? (morfe, Jan 12, 2006, 17:06)
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        Re: Gyrus? (gyrus, Jan 13, 2006, 21:29)
        The Patriarch-pupil (Littlestone, Jan 12, 2006, 17:22)
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        Re: Ritual (Rune, Jan 14, 2006, 00:42)
        Re: Ritual (BuckyE, Jan 14, 2006, 20:24)
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Re: Ritual (BuckyE, Jan 10, 2006, 06:55)
Auto Ritual (FourWinds, Jan 10, 2006, 10:16)
Re: Ritual (gyrus, Jan 14, 2006, 13:58)
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