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"Knowing Paulus, I'd guess by "sacred" he was describing a sense of numinosity - mixed with some elements of respect, contact, cherishability and plain old undefinable inner glow."

Numinosity is a much mis-used word too. It doesn't actually exist. The word "numinous" is used in all sorts of pseudo pagan magic ways - none of which are accurate. Numinous is an adjective meaning spiritual, holy,divine. From the Indo-European via Latin, it actually meant originally "a nod of assent by a god". That seems to be a long way from a "plain old undefinable inner glow". So unless you believe in a god - both sacred and numinous are words that will convey much more than you intend if used. That is why I say that they have no meaning for me. If they do have for you - fine.

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Posted by PeterH
12th January 2006ce
15:41

(fitzcoraldo, Jan 09, 2006, 09:31)

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        Fake it till you make it.... then laugh (fitzcoraldo, Jan 12, 2006, 21:08)
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        numinosity (PeterH, Jan 13, 2006, 21:48)
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        The Patriarch-pupil (Littlestone, Jan 12, 2006, 17:22)
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Auto Ritual (FourWinds, Jan 10, 2006, 10:16)
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