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Agreed FW, but the big problem is the method of observation. Looking for 'reasons' is not as holistic as observing a process. It's the dialectical relationship of a process within the framework of existence which is lacking, and it's that crucial (and not easy) difference between rationalising and understanding. It's not a toss up between looking for a reason or observing a process, it's the two parts that give a bigger picture. Science is irresponsible without the bigger picture, and ironically more handtied because of it. Looking at external interacions as well as dynamics. Like seeing a 'bird flying' is different to seeing 'flying', the process, the interaction.

There's that's a whole 10p!

Ride on indeed :-)

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Posted by morfe
26th September 2003ce
13:43

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Re: In defence of science (FourWinds)

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Tombo's weblogs...

(nigelswift, Sep 22, 2003, 10:01)

Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Holy McGrail, Sep 22, 2003, 10:17)
- Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Moth, Sep 22, 2003, 11:45)
  - Does he mean me? (FourWinds, Sep 22, 2003, 12:38)
Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Hob, Sep 22, 2003, 14:08)
- Re: Tombo's weblogs... (nickbrand, Sep 22, 2003, 22:46)
  - Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Hob, Sep 23, 2003, 14:42)
Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Jane, Sep 22, 2003, 21:16)
- Re: Tombo's weblogs... (FourWinds, Sep 22, 2003, 21:33)
  - Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Jane, Sep 22, 2003, 21:50)
    - Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Earthstepper, Sep 22, 2003, 22:18)
      - Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Steve Gray, Sep 23, 2003, 00:18)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 07:24)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (nigelswift, Sep 23, 2003, 08:48)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 09:12)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (nigelswift, Sep 23, 2003, 09:25)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Jane, Sep 23, 2003, 09:29)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (nigelswift, Sep 23, 2003, 09:35)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Jane, Sep 23, 2003, 09:46)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (nigelswift, Sep 23, 2003, 09:52)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Jane, Sep 23, 2003, 09:56)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (nigelswift, Sep 23, 2003, 10:08)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Jane, Sep 23, 2003, 10:11)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (nigelswift, Sep 23, 2003, 10:17)
        Re: Radiating Power (treaclechops, Sep 23, 2003, 10:36)
        Re: Radiating Power (Earthstepper, Sep 23, 2003, 10:48)
        Re: Radiating Power (Jane, Sep 23, 2003, 11:09)
        Re: Radiating Power (Earthstepper, Sep 23, 2003, 11:20)
        Re: Radiating Power (Jane, Sep 23, 2003, 11:28)
        Just because it's pretty? (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 10:56)
        splitting hairs? (TomBo, Sep 24, 2003, 01:43)
        Re: splitting hairs? (FourWinds, Sep 24, 2003, 06:51)
        you don't have to! (TomBo, Sep 24, 2003, 13:43)
        Re: you don't have to! (FourWinds, Sep 24, 2003, 14:39)
        Re: you don't have to! (TomBo, Sep 24, 2003, 14:56)
        Re: you don't have to! (FourWinds, Sep 24, 2003, 15:13)
        Re: you don't have to! (TomBo, Sep 24, 2003, 15:37)
        Re: you don't have to! (Moth, Sep 24, 2003, 15:47)
        Re: you don't have to! (FourWinds, Sep 24, 2003, 15:59)
        Oh aye! (Moth, Sep 24, 2003, 17:07)
        Sources (morfe, Sep 24, 2003, 15:51)
        Re: you don't have to! (FourWinds, Sep 24, 2003, 15:57)
        Re: you don't have to! (nigelswift, Sep 24, 2003, 16:07)
        Re: you don't have to! (Steve Gray, Sep 24, 2003, 22:21)
        when is an elf more than an elf? (TomBo, Sep 25, 2003, 00:31)
        Re: when is an elf more than an elf? (FourWinds, Sep 25, 2003, 06:26)
        Re: when is an elf more than an elf? (TomBo, Sep 25, 2003, 16:09)
        sense of self (TomBo, Sep 25, 2003, 23:51)
        ps (TomBo, Sep 25, 2003, 23:52)
        Re: sense of self (morfe, Sep 26, 2003, 00:12)
        Re: sense of self (FourWinds, Sep 26, 2003, 05:43)
        Re: sense of self (FourWinds, Sep 26, 2003, 05:46)
        Re: sense of self (TomBo, Sep 26, 2003, 06:17)
        Re: sense of self (nigelswift, Sep 26, 2003, 07:12)
        Re: sense of self (FourWinds, Sep 26, 2003, 08:24)
        Re: you don't have to! (FourWinds, Sep 24, 2003, 16:04)
        Re: you don't have to! (morfe, Sep 24, 2003, 16:43)
        good resource link (morfe, Sep 24, 2003, 16:54)
        Re: you don't have to! (FourWinds, Sep 24, 2003, 17:05)
        Re: you don't have to! (morfe, Sep 24, 2003, 19:19)
        Re: you don't have to! (FourWinds, Sep 24, 2003, 19:28)
        Re: you don't have to! (morfe, Sep 24, 2003, 19:29)
        Re: you don't have to! (FourWinds, Sep 24, 2003, 19:50)
        Re: you don't have to! (morfe, Sep 24, 2003, 19:58)
        Yup!! (Moth, Sep 25, 2003, 00:23)
        yes (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 13:06)
        Re: yes (Hob, Sep 23, 2003, 16:19)
        Re: Andy Goldsworthy . . . (treaclechops, Sep 23, 2003, 16:38)
        Re: Andy Goldsworthy . . . (Hob, Sep 23, 2003, 16:39)
        Re: Andy Goldsworthy . . . (treaclechops, Sep 23, 2003, 16:41)
        Re: Radiating Power (Steve Gray, Sep 23, 2003, 13:21)
        Exhibit A (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 13:24)
        Exhibit B (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 13:32)
        Re: Exhibit C (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 13:41)
        Eek! (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 13:46)
        Re: Exhibit A (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 13:45)
        Buy a stone (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 14:19)
        Re: Radiating Power (Earthstepper, Sep 23, 2003, 13:53)
        Re: Radiating Power (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 13:59)
        Re: Radiating Power (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 14:01)
        Re: Radiating Power (Earthstepper, Sep 23, 2003, 14:29)
        Re: Radiating Power (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 15:00)
        What is dowsing? (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 15:09)
        Re: What is dowsing? (Earthstepper, Sep 23, 2003, 16:26)
        Re: What is dowsing? (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 16:32)
        Re: What is dowsing? (Hob, Sep 23, 2003, 16:35)
        Re: What is dowsing? (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 16:39)
        Re: What is dowsing? (Hob, Sep 23, 2003, 16:47)
        More about magnetism (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 16:53)
        Re: More about magnetism (Hob, Sep 23, 2003, 16:55)
        Re: More about magnetism (Hob, Sep 23, 2003, 16:55)
        Re: What is dowsing? (Earthstepper, Sep 23, 2003, 16:38)
        Re: What is dowsing? (Hob, Sep 23, 2003, 16:41)
        Re: What is dowsing? (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 16:41)
        Re: What is dowsing? (Hob, Sep 23, 2003, 16:50)
        Re: What is dowsing? (Earthstepper, Sep 23, 2003, 17:33)
        Re: What is dowsing? (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 17:58)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Earthstepper, Sep 23, 2003, 10:19)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (nigelswift, Sep 23, 2003, 10:25)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Earthstepper, Sep 23, 2003, 10:43)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Hob, Sep 23, 2003, 16:37)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 13:02)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Jane, Sep 23, 2003, 14:00)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 14:03)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Jane, Sep 23, 2003, 14:16)
        Ferrari's and Flesh (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 14:16)
        21 senses (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 14:25)
        Re: 21 senses (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 15:03)
        Re: 21 senses (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 15:09)
        Anthroposophising (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 15:41)
        Re: Anthroposophising (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 15:43)
        Re: Anthroposophising (Rhiannon, Sep 23, 2003, 15:46)
        Re: Anthroposophising (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 16:36)
        Re: Anthroposophising (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 15:48)
        Re: Anthroposophising (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 18:24)
        Re: Anthroposophising (Hob, Sep 23, 2003, 16:53)
        Electric Monk (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 17:37)
        Re: Electric Monk (Hob, Sep 24, 2003, 13:07)
        Re: Electric Monk (morfe, Sep 24, 2003, 13:17)
        Re: Electric Monk (Hob, Sep 24, 2003, 22:41)
        Re: Electric Monk (morfe, Sep 25, 2003, 02:36)
        Re: Electric Monk (Hob, Sep 25, 2003, 09:33)
        Re: 21 senses (nigelswift, Sep 23, 2003, 19:59)
        Re: 21 senses (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 20:03)
        Re: 21 senses (nigelswift, Sep 23, 2003, 20:06)
        Re: 21 senses (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 20:10)
        Re: 21 senses (nigelswift, Sep 23, 2003, 20:24)
        Re: 21 senses (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 20:33)
        Re: 21 senses (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 20:34)
        Re: 21 senses (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 20:37)
        Re: 21 senses (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 20:36)
        Re: 21 senses (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 20:39)
        Re: 21 senses (nigelswift, Sep 23, 2003, 20:55)
        Re: 21 senses (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 21:03)
        Re: Ferrari's and Flesh (Hob, Sep 23, 2003, 16:51)
        Re: Ferrari's and Flesh (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 16:57)
        shit (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 18:19)
        Re: shit (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 21:06)
        Re: Ferrari's and Flesh (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 17:33)
Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Rhiannon, Sep 23, 2003, 09:46)
Loki (TomBo, Sep 23, 2003, 11:41)
- Re: Loki (Moth, Sep 23, 2003, 12:11)
Trainspotting (baza, Sep 24, 2003, 18:41)
- Re: Trainspotting (FourWinds, Sep 24, 2003, 19:42)
  - Re: Trainspotting (Steve Gray, Sep 24, 2003, 23:24)
    - Re: Trainspotting (morfe, Sep 25, 2003, 02:44)
  - Atom Heart Motherfucker (morfe, Sep 25, 2003, 03:09)
    - Lite version (morfe, Sep 25, 2003, 03:11)
    - In defence of science (Steve Gray, Sep 25, 2003, 22:50)
      - In defence of the Universe! (nigelswift, Sep 25, 2003, 23:42)
      - Re: In defence of science (morfe, Sep 26, 2003, 00:03)
        Re: In defence of science (FourWinds, Sep 26, 2003, 05:58)
        Re: In defence of science (morfe, Sep 26, 2003, 13:43)
- He doesn't understand what a megarak is (Megalithic, Sep 25, 2003, 00:21)
  - the midnight lamp (part 1) (TomBo, Sep 25, 2003, 02:35)
    - Re: the midnight lamp (part 1) (nigelswift, Sep 25, 2003, 07:45)
      - Re: the midnight lamp (part 1) (FourWinds, Sep 25, 2003, 08:15)
    - Re: the midnight lamp (part 1) (TomBo, Sep 25, 2003, 16:07)
    - Re: the view from outside (Rhiannon, Sep 25, 2003, 16:25)
      - Re: the view from outside (nigelswift, Sep 25, 2003, 17:42)
      - Re: the view from outside (morfe, Sep 25, 2003, 17:59)
        Re: and another thing... (Rhiannon, Sep 26, 2003, 08:46)
        Re: and another thing... (FourWinds, Sep 26, 2003, 13:48)
        Re: and another thing... (Rhiannon, Sep 26, 2003, 14:24)
        Re: and another thing... (morfe, Sep 26, 2003, 13:50)
        Re: and another thing... (Hob, Sep 26, 2003, 15:07)
        Re: and another thing... (Rhiannon, Sep 26, 2003, 15:55)
        Re: and another thing... (Hob, Sep 26, 2003, 16:47)
        Re: and another thing... (Rhiannon, Sep 26, 2003, 17:06)
AWESOME !! (Shestu, Sep 25, 2003, 17:43)
Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Megalithic, Sep 09, 2006, 19:01)
- Re: Tombo's weblogs... (whatisthat, Sep 10, 2006, 06:56)
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