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In defence of the Universe!

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It comes down to this though: open minded and holistic as science may be, it still conceives of boundaries, related to itself, either conceptually or by practical proof.

That is a scientific personal perception, but alternative perceptions can't be assessed by such a measure since it will always invalidate them as being beyond the boundary.

But logic might do it (!). Doesn't it hint that the universe is more likely to be bigger than rationality, not co-extensive with it?

(May I add, I've spent 50 years not agreeing with this, but hell, we all make mistakes!)

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Posted by nigelswift
25th September 2003ce
23:42

In reply to:

In defence of science (Steve Gray)

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Tombo's weblogs...

(nigelswift, Sep 22, 2003, 10:01)

Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Holy McGrail, Sep 22, 2003, 10:17)
- Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Moth, Sep 22, 2003, 11:45)
  - Does he mean me? (FourWinds, Sep 22, 2003, 12:38)
Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Hob, Sep 22, 2003, 14:08)
- Re: Tombo's weblogs... (nickbrand, Sep 22, 2003, 22:46)
  - Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Hob, Sep 23, 2003, 14:42)
Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Jane, Sep 22, 2003, 21:16)
- Re: Tombo's weblogs... (FourWinds, Sep 22, 2003, 21:33)
  - Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Jane, Sep 22, 2003, 21:50)
    - Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Earthstepper, Sep 22, 2003, 22:18)
      - Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Steve Gray, Sep 23, 2003, 00:18)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 07:24)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (nigelswift, Sep 23, 2003, 08:48)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 09:12)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (nigelswift, Sep 23, 2003, 09:25)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Jane, Sep 23, 2003, 09:29)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (nigelswift, Sep 23, 2003, 09:35)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Jane, Sep 23, 2003, 09:46)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (nigelswift, Sep 23, 2003, 09:52)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Jane, Sep 23, 2003, 09:56)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (nigelswift, Sep 23, 2003, 10:08)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Jane, Sep 23, 2003, 10:11)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (nigelswift, Sep 23, 2003, 10:17)
        Re: Radiating Power (treaclechops, Sep 23, 2003, 10:36)
        Re: Radiating Power (Earthstepper, Sep 23, 2003, 10:48)
        Re: Radiating Power (Jane, Sep 23, 2003, 11:09)
        Re: Radiating Power (Earthstepper, Sep 23, 2003, 11:20)
        Re: Radiating Power (Jane, Sep 23, 2003, 11:28)
        Just because it's pretty? (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 10:56)
        splitting hairs? (TomBo, Sep 24, 2003, 01:43)
        Re: splitting hairs? (FourWinds, Sep 24, 2003, 06:51)
        you don't have to! (TomBo, Sep 24, 2003, 13:43)
        Re: you don't have to! (FourWinds, Sep 24, 2003, 14:39)
        Re: you don't have to! (TomBo, Sep 24, 2003, 14:56)
        Re: you don't have to! (FourWinds, Sep 24, 2003, 15:13)
        Re: you don't have to! (TomBo, Sep 24, 2003, 15:37)
        Re: you don't have to! (Moth, Sep 24, 2003, 15:47)
        Re: you don't have to! (FourWinds, Sep 24, 2003, 15:59)
        Oh aye! (Moth, Sep 24, 2003, 17:07)
        Sources (morfe, Sep 24, 2003, 15:51)
        Re: you don't have to! (FourWinds, Sep 24, 2003, 15:57)
        Re: you don't have to! (nigelswift, Sep 24, 2003, 16:07)
        Re: you don't have to! (Steve Gray, Sep 24, 2003, 22:21)
        when is an elf more than an elf? (TomBo, Sep 25, 2003, 00:31)
        Re: when is an elf more than an elf? (FourWinds, Sep 25, 2003, 06:26)
        Re: when is an elf more than an elf? (TomBo, Sep 25, 2003, 16:09)
        sense of self (TomBo, Sep 25, 2003, 23:51)
        ps (TomBo, Sep 25, 2003, 23:52)
        Re: sense of self (morfe, Sep 26, 2003, 00:12)
        Re: sense of self (FourWinds, Sep 26, 2003, 05:43)
        Re: sense of self (FourWinds, Sep 26, 2003, 05:46)
        Re: sense of self (TomBo, Sep 26, 2003, 06:17)
        Re: sense of self (nigelswift, Sep 26, 2003, 07:12)
        Re: sense of self (FourWinds, Sep 26, 2003, 08:24)
        Re: you don't have to! (FourWinds, Sep 24, 2003, 16:04)
        Re: you don't have to! (morfe, Sep 24, 2003, 16:43)
        good resource link (morfe, Sep 24, 2003, 16:54)
        Re: you don't have to! (FourWinds, Sep 24, 2003, 17:05)
        Re: you don't have to! (morfe, Sep 24, 2003, 19:19)
        Re: you don't have to! (FourWinds, Sep 24, 2003, 19:28)
        Re: you don't have to! (morfe, Sep 24, 2003, 19:29)
        Re: you don't have to! (FourWinds, Sep 24, 2003, 19:50)
        Re: you don't have to! (morfe, Sep 24, 2003, 19:58)
        Yup!! (Moth, Sep 25, 2003, 00:23)
        yes (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 13:06)
        Re: yes (Hob, Sep 23, 2003, 16:19)
        Re: Andy Goldsworthy . . . (treaclechops, Sep 23, 2003, 16:38)
        Re: Andy Goldsworthy . . . (Hob, Sep 23, 2003, 16:39)
        Re: Andy Goldsworthy . . . (treaclechops, Sep 23, 2003, 16:41)
        Re: Radiating Power (Steve Gray, Sep 23, 2003, 13:21)
        Exhibit A (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 13:24)
        Exhibit B (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 13:32)
        Re: Exhibit C (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 13:41)
        Eek! (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 13:46)
        Re: Exhibit A (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 13:45)
        Buy a stone (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 14:19)
        Re: Radiating Power (Earthstepper, Sep 23, 2003, 13:53)
        Re: Radiating Power (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 13:59)
        Re: Radiating Power (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 14:01)
        Re: Radiating Power (Earthstepper, Sep 23, 2003, 14:29)
        Re: Radiating Power (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 15:00)
        What is dowsing? (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 15:09)
        Re: What is dowsing? (Earthstepper, Sep 23, 2003, 16:26)
        Re: What is dowsing? (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 16:32)
        Re: What is dowsing? (Hob, Sep 23, 2003, 16:35)
        Re: What is dowsing? (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 16:39)
        Re: What is dowsing? (Hob, Sep 23, 2003, 16:47)
        More about magnetism (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 16:53)
        Re: More about magnetism (Hob, Sep 23, 2003, 16:55)
        Re: More about magnetism (Hob, Sep 23, 2003, 16:55)
        Re: What is dowsing? (Earthstepper, Sep 23, 2003, 16:38)
        Re: What is dowsing? (Hob, Sep 23, 2003, 16:41)
        Re: What is dowsing? (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 16:41)
        Re: What is dowsing? (Hob, Sep 23, 2003, 16:50)
        Re: What is dowsing? (Earthstepper, Sep 23, 2003, 17:33)
        Re: What is dowsing? (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 17:58)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Earthstepper, Sep 23, 2003, 10:19)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (nigelswift, Sep 23, 2003, 10:25)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Earthstepper, Sep 23, 2003, 10:43)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Hob, Sep 23, 2003, 16:37)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 13:02)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Jane, Sep 23, 2003, 14:00)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 14:03)
        Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Jane, Sep 23, 2003, 14:16)
        Ferrari's and Flesh (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 14:16)
        21 senses (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 14:25)
        Re: 21 senses (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 15:03)
        Re: 21 senses (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 15:09)
        Anthroposophising (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 15:41)
        Re: Anthroposophising (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 15:43)
        Re: Anthroposophising (Rhiannon, Sep 23, 2003, 15:46)
        Re: Anthroposophising (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 16:36)
        Re: Anthroposophising (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 15:48)
        Re: Anthroposophising (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 18:24)
        Re: Anthroposophising (Hob, Sep 23, 2003, 16:53)
        Electric Monk (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 17:37)
        Re: Electric Monk (Hob, Sep 24, 2003, 13:07)
        Re: Electric Monk (morfe, Sep 24, 2003, 13:17)
        Re: Electric Monk (Hob, Sep 24, 2003, 22:41)
        Re: Electric Monk (morfe, Sep 25, 2003, 02:36)
        Re: Electric Monk (Hob, Sep 25, 2003, 09:33)
        Re: 21 senses (nigelswift, Sep 23, 2003, 19:59)
        Re: 21 senses (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 20:03)
        Re: 21 senses (nigelswift, Sep 23, 2003, 20:06)
        Re: 21 senses (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 20:10)
        Re: 21 senses (nigelswift, Sep 23, 2003, 20:24)
        Re: 21 senses (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 20:33)
        Re: 21 senses (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 20:34)
        Re: 21 senses (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 20:37)
        Re: 21 senses (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 20:36)
        Re: 21 senses (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 20:39)
        Re: 21 senses (nigelswift, Sep 23, 2003, 20:55)
        Re: 21 senses (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 21:03)
        Re: Ferrari's and Flesh (Hob, Sep 23, 2003, 16:51)
        Re: Ferrari's and Flesh (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 16:57)
        shit (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 18:19)
        Re: shit (FourWinds, Sep 23, 2003, 21:06)
        Re: Ferrari's and Flesh (morfe, Sep 23, 2003, 17:33)
Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Rhiannon, Sep 23, 2003, 09:46)
Loki (TomBo, Sep 23, 2003, 11:41)
- Re: Loki (Moth, Sep 23, 2003, 12:11)
Trainspotting (baza, Sep 24, 2003, 18:41)
- Re: Trainspotting (FourWinds, Sep 24, 2003, 19:42)
  - Re: Trainspotting (Steve Gray, Sep 24, 2003, 23:24)
    - Re: Trainspotting (morfe, Sep 25, 2003, 02:44)
  - Atom Heart Motherfucker (morfe, Sep 25, 2003, 03:09)
    - Lite version (morfe, Sep 25, 2003, 03:11)
    - In defence of science (Steve Gray, Sep 25, 2003, 22:50)
      - In defence of the Universe! (nigelswift, Sep 25, 2003, 23:42)
      - Re: In defence of science (morfe, Sep 26, 2003, 00:03)
        Re: In defence of science (FourWinds, Sep 26, 2003, 05:58)
        Re: In defence of science (morfe, Sep 26, 2003, 13:43)
- He doesn't understand what a megarak is (Megalithic, Sep 25, 2003, 00:21)
  - the midnight lamp (part 1) (TomBo, Sep 25, 2003, 02:35)
    - Re: the midnight lamp (part 1) (nigelswift, Sep 25, 2003, 07:45)
      - Re: the midnight lamp (part 1) (FourWinds, Sep 25, 2003, 08:15)
    - Re: the midnight lamp (part 1) (TomBo, Sep 25, 2003, 16:07)
    - Re: the view from outside (Rhiannon, Sep 25, 2003, 16:25)
      - Re: the view from outside (nigelswift, Sep 25, 2003, 17:42)
      - Re: the view from outside (morfe, Sep 25, 2003, 17:59)
        Re: and another thing... (Rhiannon, Sep 26, 2003, 08:46)
        Re: and another thing... (FourWinds, Sep 26, 2003, 13:48)
        Re: and another thing... (Rhiannon, Sep 26, 2003, 14:24)
        Re: and another thing... (morfe, Sep 26, 2003, 13:50)
        Re: and another thing... (Hob, Sep 26, 2003, 15:07)
        Re: and another thing... (Rhiannon, Sep 26, 2003, 15:55)
        Re: and another thing... (Hob, Sep 26, 2003, 16:47)
        Re: and another thing... (Rhiannon, Sep 26, 2003, 17:06)
AWESOME !! (Shestu, Sep 25, 2003, 17:43)
Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Megalithic, Sep 09, 2006, 19:01)
- Re: Tombo's weblogs... (whatisthat, Sep 10, 2006, 06:56)
  - Re: Tombo's weblogs... (Pete G, Sep 10, 2006, 13:14)

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