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Gordon, there's a problem with the method of levering from stuts. The strut will not slide gracefully down the stone as the stone is elevated. It will drop to the ground after the first use.

I hadn't appreciated this problem when I made a similar suggestion myself.

If you want the strut to meet the stone initially at 90 deg, then the distance from the bottom of the strut to the base of the stone will be greater than the length of the strut. The only way to make it work is to have the strut meet the stone at an angle that's considerably less than 70 degrees. In other words, you need a short strut (say 30') that's near to the stone (say 20'). Even so, it's going to slide a long way down the stone before it's finished.

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Posted by Steve Gray
17th September 2003ce
16:49

(GordonP, Sep 14, 2003, 12:11)

Stonehengineers Web Site (Steve Gray, Sep 14, 2003, 12:37)
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Call to Arms (Steve Gray, Sep 14, 2003, 22:58)
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Hole Profiles (Steve Gray, Sep 14, 2003, 23:26)
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        Re: clunk (Steve Gray, Sep 16, 2003, 13:20)
        Re: clunk (pebblesfromheaven, Sep 16, 2003, 17:35)
  - Re: Hole Profiles (nigelswift, Sep 17, 2003, 07:59)
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      - Re: Hole Profiles (nigelswift, Sep 17, 2003, 08:36)
        Re: Hole Profiles (Steve Gray, Sep 17, 2003, 08:46)
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        Re: Hole Profiles (nigelswift, Sep 17, 2003, 16:36)
        Re: Hole Profiles (GordonP, Sep 17, 2003, 16:49)
Neolithic Rope! (nigelswift, Sep 16, 2003, 15:52)
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        Re: Do we need ropes? (Steve Gray, Sep 16, 2003, 22:29)
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        Re: Do we need ropes? (Steve Gray, Sep 17, 2003, 08:38)
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        Re: Do we need ropes? (Steve Gray, Sep 17, 2003, 09:26)
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        Re: Do we need ropes? (GordonP, Sep 17, 2003, 08:57)
        Re: Do we need ropes? (Steve Gray, Sep 17, 2003, 09:08)
        Re: Do we need ropes? (Steve Gray, Sep 17, 2003, 09:11)
        Re: Do we need ropes? (Steve Gray, Sep 17, 2003, 08:59)
        Re: Eh? (Wotan, Sep 17, 2003, 09:05)
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        Re: Eh? (GordonP, Sep 17, 2003, 09:28)
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        Re: Do we need ropes? (nigelswift, Sep 17, 2003, 09:27)
        Re: Do we need ropes? (Steve Gray, Sep 17, 2003, 09:39)
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        Re: Do we need ropes? (Steve Gray, Sep 17, 2003, 12:26)
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        Re: Do we need ropes? (nigelswift, Sep 17, 2003, 13:08)
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        Re: Lawn Greene (Steve Gray, Sep 17, 2003, 13:41)
        Re: Lawn Greene (GordonP, Sep 17, 2003, 13:50)
        Re: Do we need ropes? (Steve Gray, Sep 17, 2003, 16:49)
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        Re: Neolithic Rope! (nigelswift, Sep 17, 2003, 13:52)
        Re: Neolithic Rope! (nigelswift, Sep 19, 2003, 09:10)
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- Re: think neolithic (Wotan, Sep 17, 2003, 21:06)
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        Re: Archaeologist (nigelswift, Sep 18, 2003, 13:08)
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        Re: Archaeologist (nigelswift, Sep 18, 2003, 13:23)
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Placing the Lintel (Steve Gray, Sep 18, 2003, 12:57)
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    - Re: working it all out (Wotan, Sep 18, 2003, 14:20)
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        Re: working it all out (GordonP, Sep 18, 2003, 14:59)
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