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Re: it took up several beermats!

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"... that the Biblical "fall" from grace (actually only sort of implied in the Bible and derived more from Milton's Paradise Lost)"

If that is so, why is it a popular tableau on 10th century Irish High Crosses?

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Posted by FourWinds
28th June 2003ce
09:08

(Shestu, Jun 26, 2003, 21:11)

Re: Spirit of Place (FourWinds, Jun 26, 2003, 21:16)
- Re: Spirit of Place (Shestu, Jun 26, 2003, 21:24)
  - Re: Spirit of Place (TomBo, Jun 26, 2003, 21:54)
    - stone him! (TomBo, Jun 26, 2003, 23:19)
      - Stoned Cure ! (Shestu, Jun 27, 2003, 20:55)
        Jelly Roll Morton (TomBo, Jun 27, 2003, 21:54)
        Re: Jelly Roll Morton (Shestu, Jun 27, 2003, 22:07)
- Re: Spirit of Place (Kammer, Jun 30, 2003, 10:58)
  - Re: Spirit of Place (nigelswift, Jun 30, 2003, 11:19)
    - Re: Spirit of Place (Kammer, Jun 30, 2003, 11:40)
      - Re: Spirit of Place (Shestu, Jul 01, 2003, 06:34)
        Re: Spirit of Place (FourWinds, Jul 01, 2003, 07:30)
        Re: Spirit of Place (Kammer, Jul 01, 2003, 10:30)
Re: Spirit of Place (nigelswift, Jun 26, 2003, 21:25)
- Re: Spirit of Place (TomBo, Jun 26, 2003, 23:50)
- Re: Spirit of Place (Moth, Jun 27, 2003, 00:09)
  - Re: Spirit of Place (Shestu, Jun 27, 2003, 00:17)
    - Re: Spirit of Place (Moth, Jun 27, 2003, 00:33)
      - Re: Spirit of Place (Shestu, Jun 27, 2003, 00:43)
        Re: Spirit of Place (Moth, Jun 27, 2003, 00:57)
        Re: Spirit of Place (Shestu, Jun 27, 2003, 06:14)
        Re: Spirit of Place (Moth, Jun 27, 2003, 11:39)
  - Re: Spirit of Place (FourWinds, Jun 27, 2003, 08:23)
    - Re: Spirit of Place (Moth, Jun 27, 2003, 11:49)
Re: Spirit of Place (Pete G, Jun 26, 2003, 21:25)
- Re: Spirit of Place (Shestu, Jun 26, 2003, 21:30)
  - Re: Spirit of Place (nigelswift, Jun 26, 2003, 21:36)
    - Re: Spirit of Place (Shestu, Jun 26, 2003, 21:56)
      - Re: Spirit of Place (TomBo, Jun 26, 2003, 22:01)
        Re: Spirit of Place (nigelswift, Jun 26, 2003, 22:13)
        Re: Spirit of Place (Shestu, Jun 26, 2003, 22:22)
        Re: Spirit of Place (Pete G, Jun 26, 2003, 22:53)
        Re: Spirit of Place (TomBo, Jun 26, 2003, 23:02)
        Re: Spirit of Place (Pete G, Jun 26, 2003, 23:18)
        Re: Spirit of Place (Moth, Jun 26, 2003, 23:57)
Re: Spirit of Place (fitzcoraldo, Jun 26, 2003, 21:33)
- Re: Spirit of Place (Shestu, Jun 26, 2003, 21:35)
  - Re: Spirit of Place (fitzcoraldo, Jun 26, 2003, 21:41)
    - Re: Spirit of Place (Shestu, Jun 26, 2003, 21:45)
      - Re: Spirit of Place (fitzcoraldo, Jun 26, 2003, 22:04)
explaining myself (TomBo, Jun 26, 2003, 21:52)
- Re: explaining myself (Shestu, Jun 26, 2003, 22:08)
  - Re: explaining myself (TomBo, Jun 26, 2003, 22:29)
    - Re: explaining myself (Shestu, Jun 26, 2003, 22:38)
      - Re: explaining myself (TomBo, Jun 26, 2003, 23:02)
Re: Spirit of Place (wychburyman, Jun 27, 2003, 08:21)
Re: Genius Loci (Wotan, Jun 27, 2003, 10:08)
Tombo and Shestu (nigelswift, Jun 27, 2003, 10:08)
- Re: Tombo and Shestu, there's more... (nigelswift, Jun 27, 2003, 10:10)
  - Wow Nigelswift (pebblesfromheaven, Jun 27, 2003, 10:16)
    - Re: places and buildings (Joanna, Jun 27, 2003, 10:21)
    - Miss Pebbles says ... (FourWinds, Jun 27, 2003, 10:30)
      - Re: Miss Pebbles says ... (pebblesfromheaven, Jun 27, 2003, 10:34)
      - Re: Miss Pebbles says ... (Shestu, Jun 27, 2003, 16:12)
        Re: Miss Pebbles says ... (nigelswift, Jun 27, 2003, 16:55)
        Re: Miss Pebbles says ... (Shestu, Jun 27, 2003, 17:06)
        Re: Miss Pebbles says ... (nigelswift, Jun 27, 2003, 17:17)
        Re: Miss Pebbles says ... (Shestu, Jun 27, 2003, 17:27)
        Re: Miss Pebbles says ... (nigelswift, Jun 27, 2003, 17:49)
        Re: Miss Pebbles says ... (Shestu, Jun 27, 2003, 17:59)
        Re: Miss Pebbles indeed says ... (pebblesfromheaven, Jun 27, 2003, 18:10)
        Re: Lost yer Virginity (Shestu, Jun 27, 2003, 18:25)
        Mr Nigelswift says... (Moth, Jun 27, 2003, 17:07)
        You are the skeptic, not me. (FourWinds, Jun 28, 2003, 09:03)
        Quibbling Skeptic (Shestu, Jun 28, 2003, 18:10)
        Re: Quibbling Skeptic (FourWinds, Jun 28, 2003, 22:45)
        Re: Quibbling Skeptic (Shestu, Jun 28, 2003, 22:54)
        Re: Quibbling Skeptic (FourWinds, Jun 29, 2003, 11:44)
        Re: Quibbling Skeptic (Shestu, Jun 29, 2003, 15:04)
        Unity! (TomBo, Jul 01, 2003, 14:01)
        And Still More Unity! (TomBo, Jul 01, 2003, 14:02)
        Here! Here! (Jane, Jul 01, 2003, 16:03)
        Good grief! (FourWinds, Jul 01, 2003, 16:05)
        I know! (TomBo, Jul 01, 2003, 20:31)
  - Aha...! (Moth, Jun 27, 2003, 11:59)
  - Re: Tombo and Shestu, there's more... (Shestu, Jun 27, 2003, 15:52)
  - it took up several beermats! (TomBo, Jun 27, 2003, 22:28)
    - ...here's the second bit (TomBo, Jun 27, 2003, 22:28)
      - Re: ...here's the second bit (Shestu, Jun 27, 2003, 22:42)
      - Re: ...here's the second bit (nigelswift, Jun 27, 2003, 23:35)
        Re: ...here's the second bit (Shestu, Jun 27, 2003, 23:47)
      - Not done! (morfe, Jun 29, 2003, 21:35)
      - Not done! (morfe, Jun 29, 2003, 21:35)
        Re: Not done! (TomBo, Jun 30, 2003, 14:57)
        Re: Not done! (morfe, Jun 30, 2003, 19:10)
        Re: Not done! (morfe, Jun 30, 2003, 20:08)
    - Re: it took up several beermats! (FourWinds, Jun 28, 2003, 09:08)
      - Whoops! Complete bollcoks! (FourWinds, Jun 28, 2003, 22:48)
        NOT COMPLETE BOLLOCKS (FourWinds, Jun 29, 2003, 11:54)
        Footnote (FourWinds, Jun 29, 2003, 11:59)
        Re: Footnote (Shestu, Jun 29, 2003, 15:15)
        Re: Footnote (nigelswift, Jun 29, 2003, 16:22)
        Re: Footnote (Shestu, Jun 29, 2003, 16:41)
        Re: Footnote (nigelswift, Jun 29, 2003, 16:54)
        The world without war? (FourWinds, Jun 29, 2003, 20:00)
        Re: The world without war? (Joanna, Jun 30, 2003, 14:24)
        Re: The world without war? (Shestu, Jul 01, 2003, 09:01)
        Re: The world without war? (Shestu, Jul 01, 2003, 09:05)
        Re: The world without war? (FourWinds, Jul 01, 2003, 10:06)
        Re: The world without war? (nigelswift, Jul 01, 2003, 10:24)
        mindset? (morfe, Jul 01, 2003, 10:35)
        Re-read your comments! (Shestu, Jul 01, 2003, 16:04)
        Re: Re-read your comments! (FourWinds, Jul 01, 2003, 16:07)
        Re: Re-read your comments! (Joanna, Jul 01, 2003, 16:20)
        Ah Fuck it! (FourWinds, Jul 02, 2003, 12:30)
        Re: Ah Fuck it! (wychburyman, Jul 02, 2003, 13:41)
        Re: Ah Fuck it! (FourWinds, Jul 02, 2003, 15:13)
        Giving a shite ... (FourWinds, Jun 29, 2003, 20:12)
        Re: Giving a shite ... (wychburyman, Jul 02, 2003, 13:40)
        Re: Footnote (Shestu, Jun 29, 2003, 16:48)
        Re: Footnote (nigelswift, Jun 29, 2003, 16:56)
        Harmonious with Nature (Shestu, Jun 29, 2003, 17:03)
        Re: Footnote (FourWinds, Jun 29, 2003, 19:50)
      - I eat my words... (TomBo, Jun 30, 2003, 14:54)
        Re: I eat my words... (FourWinds, Jun 30, 2003, 15:56)
        Yet Again I eat my words... (TomBo, Jun 30, 2003, 16:42)
Re: Spirit of Place (Blaidd, Jun 27, 2003, 12:47)
- Re: Spirit of Place (Moth, Jun 27, 2003, 13:56)
  - Re: Spirit of Place (nigelswift, Jun 27, 2003, 14:42)
    - Re: Blackpool (Blaidd, Jun 27, 2003, 16:14)
      - Re: Blackpool (Moth, Jun 27, 2003, 16:20)
        Re: Blackpool (Blaidd, Jun 27, 2003, 16:23)
        Skeggy (Moth, Jun 27, 2003, 16:44)
- Re: Spirit of Place (Shestu, Jun 27, 2003, 16:00)
  - Re: Spirit of Place (Shestu, Jun 27, 2003, 19:02)
    - Calling Tombo (Shestu, Jun 27, 2003, 20:50)
      - Re: Calling Tombo (nigelswift, Jun 27, 2003, 20:58)
        Re: Calling Tombo (Shestu, Jun 27, 2003, 21:14)
        Re: Calling Tombo (nigelswift, Jun 27, 2003, 21:47)
        give me time! (TomBo, Jun 27, 2003, 21:55)
        Re: give me time! (nigelswift, Jun 27, 2003, 22:13)
        Re: give me time! (TomBo, Jun 27, 2003, 22:31)
        Re: Calling Tombo (Shestu, Jun 27, 2003, 22:13)
        Lucky bastards (Moth, Jun 28, 2003, 01:35)
        PPPS What is couth anyway? (Moth, Jun 28, 2003, 01:37)
        Van or Jim? (TomBo, Jun 28, 2003, 01:48)
        thread subversion rules (TomBo, Jun 28, 2003, 01:49)
        Re: thread subversion rules (Moth, Jun 28, 2003, 02:11)
        Re: thread subversion rules (Shestu, Jun 28, 2003, 05:52)
        Re: Lucky bastards (nigelswift, Jun 28, 2003, 07:47)
- Wayland's - one of the special places (FourWinds, Jun 28, 2003, 09:13)
  - Re: Wayland's - one of the special places (Blaidd, Jun 30, 2003, 14:05)
    - Re: Wayland's - one of the special places (FourWinds, Jun 30, 2003, 14:52)
      - Re: Wayland's - one of the special places (nigelswift, Jun 30, 2003, 15:48)
      - Re: Wayland's - one of the special places (morfe, Jun 30, 2003, 19:12)
        Re: Wayland's - one of the special place (FourWinds, Jun 30, 2003, 19:24)
Worcestershire Ramble part 1 (nigelswift, Jun 28, 2003, 10:28)
- Re: Worcestershire Ramble part 2 (nigelswift, Jun 28, 2003, 10:30)
  - Re: Worcestershire Ramble part 2 (Shestu, Jun 28, 2003, 18:32)
    - Re: Worcestershire Ramble part 2 (nigelswift, Jun 28, 2003, 19:08)
      - Lumped Together (Shestu, Jun 28, 2003, 19:24)
  - Re: Worcestershire Ramble part 2 (TomBo, Jun 30, 2003, 14:56)
    - Re: Worcestershire Ramble part 2 (TomBo, Jun 30, 2003, 14:56)
Re: Spirit of Place (wychburyman, Jun 28, 2003, 23:31)
- Re: Spirit of Place (Shestu, Jun 29, 2003, 00:12)
Re: Spirit of Place (morfe, Jun 29, 2003, 00:37)
- and then (morfe, Jun 29, 2003, 01:03)
  - Re: and then (Shestu, Jun 29, 2003, 01:53)
  - Re: and then (nigelswift, Jun 29, 2003, 09:52)
    - Triggers (nigelswift, Jun 29, 2003, 11:02)
- Re: Spirit of Place (FourWinds, Jun 29, 2003, 11:29)
  - Re: Spirit of Place (nigelswift, Jun 29, 2003, 12:43)
    - Re: Spirit of Place (morfe, Jun 29, 2003, 20:35)
      - Re: Spirit of Place (nigelswift, Jun 29, 2003, 21:02)
        Grandpa's Gift (nigelswift, Jun 29, 2003, 21:37)
  - insecurity (morfe, Jun 29, 2003, 13:23)
    - Re: insecurity (morfe, Jun 29, 2003, 13:31)
    - Re: insecurity (FourWinds, Jun 29, 2003, 14:26)
      - inexpicable ? (FourWinds, Jun 29, 2003, 14:27)
        indespicable! (morfe, Jun 29, 2003, 20:20)
      - Re: insecurity (nigelswift, Jun 29, 2003, 14:45)
    - HILL FORTS (wychburyman, Jun 29, 2003, 22:07)
      - Re: HILL FORTS (FourWinds, Jun 29, 2003, 23:26)
  - Re: Spirit of Place (morfe, Jun 29, 2003, 13:48)
    - Big Gay Maulers (Shestu, Jun 29, 2003, 15:39)
      - Re: Big Gay Maulers (morfe, Jun 29, 2003, 19:53)
        Re: Big Gay Maulers (FourWinds, Jun 29, 2003, 20:17)
        Re: Big Gay Maulers (wychburyman, Jun 29, 2003, 21:37)
        Re: Big Gay Maulers (nigelswift, Jun 29, 2003, 21:41)
        Re: Big Gay Maulers (Blaidd, Jun 30, 2003, 13:53)
Re: Spirit of Place (FourWinds, Jun 29, 2003, 23:27)
- Re: Spirit of Place (morfe, Jun 29, 2003, 23:43)
Re: Spirit of Place (wychburyman, Jun 30, 2003, 00:41)
- Re: Spirit of Place (wychburyman, Jun 30, 2003, 09:55)
  - Re: Spirit of Place (nigelswift, Jun 30, 2003, 10:11)
    - Re: Spirit of Place (FourWinds, Jun 30, 2003, 10:23)
      - Re: Spirit of Place (nigelswift, Jun 30, 2003, 10:45)
        Re: Spirit of Place (FourWinds, Jun 30, 2003, 10:55)
        Re: Spirit of Place (Moth, Jun 30, 2003, 20:13)
        Moth & Tombo (nigelswift, Jun 30, 2003, 20:52)
        Ripe for plucking??? (Moth, Jun 30, 2003, 21:33)
        Re: Ripe for plucking??? (nigelswift, Jun 30, 2003, 21:43)
        ooyah! (morfe, Jun 30, 2003, 22:36)
        Re: ooyah! (nigelswift, Jun 30, 2003, 23:03)
        Re: ooyah! (wychburyman, Jul 01, 2003, 18:41)
        Re: ooyah! (nigelswift, Jul 01, 2003, 19:32)
        Re: ooyah! (wychburyman, Jul 01, 2003, 23:14)
        Re: Spirit of Place (Shestu, Jul 01, 2003, 08:17)
        Re: Spirit of Place (nigelswift, Jul 01, 2003, 08:28)
        Re: Spirit of Place (Shestu, Jul 01, 2003, 09:08)
        Re: Spirit of Place (FourWinds, Jul 01, 2003, 10:02)
    - Re: Spirit of Place (wychburyman, Jun 30, 2003, 19:53)
Re: Spirit of Place (TomBo, Jun 30, 2003, 14:58)

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