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You'd rather more people would have died off from starvation and disease? Cuz that's the reason our population has grown so large in the past century or two.

No way back without killing a lot of people . . .

That's dirty arguing, based upon assumptions. In order to keep certain rich landlords alive, I've had to watch me and my family slave for years, especially my father, in a filthy, dark, car factory. Plenty of my family have died too from industrial accidents and diseases. Of course people die, that's the order of things, we are in the ridiculous situation where we democraticaly choose HOW people die. It's all down to figures. It's all down to money. I don't want to go backwards, I want to move forwards. And I don't see how right now, that's why I started this discussion. Keep it coming!