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Mrs LD took our girls to see Take That there on Saturday....there but for the grace etc

Words fail me - there are some sick fuckers out there

Condolences to all affected

Take care

Locodogz wrote:
Mrs LD took our girls to see Take That there on Saturday....there but for the grace etc

Words fail me - there are some sick fuckers out there

Condolences to all affected

Take care

Ditto. How the hell do we stop it?

Locodogz wrote:
Mrs LD took our girls to see Take That there on Saturday....there but for the grace etc

Words fail me - there are some sick fuckers out there

Condolences to all affected

Take care

As one who also last night gave thanks that my grandchildren were not at this concert, my heart goes out today to all those parents and grandparents who are still waiting for news of loved ones.
The people of Manchester behaved magnificently, we should be grateful in all these party arguments in that it is the people who in the end cope with the terrible tragedy that took place not the politicians.

Poor Manchester.

I find it a not strange and remarkably unsurprising fact that UK and US Nat Security Forces both knew of UK born Salman Abedi and his movements. Both UK and French National Security forces knew he'd been in Syria training with the UK and US backed Dogs of War Daesh and ISIS this year. They are our guys after all...

Salman Abedi's father Ramadan Abedi was a refugee from Gadaffi's Libya in the late 1980's. However after the joint UK and US-backed toppling of Gadaffi (using the mercenary Dogs of War Daesh/ ISIS) in 2011, Ramadan Abedi left Britain and suddenly became manager of the Central Security Force in Tripoli (the same Dogs of War under any other name). You couldn't make this stuff up... Salman Abedi just came back from a visit there a few days ago...

The diplomacy of the first half of the 20th Century which really marked the UK's entry into Arab States and allowed Western Oil Interests to begin work ended a bit more than a decade ago. Diplomacy, trade and business has been replaced by Western and Saudi-backed proxy armies of Wahhabist thugs who instigate wars, terrorise civilian populations and destabilise governments to enable ram-raids on resources and legitimise "Western Intervention" (aerial bombardment with depeleted Uranium) to "protect civilians" and enable "regime change". We've all seen what that looks like.

To suggest that UK and US-backed destabilisation of the Middle East has spawned a monster in the shape of Salman Abedi would be of course a huge understatement. Our leaders who knew better stoked the fires of extremism across the Middle East, created blood-soaked chaos where none was needed and left our front door wide open. Poor Manchester.

We've been here before and we'll be here again. Trump has eased the way for the US Military Industrial Complex in the massive arms deal with the Wahhabist Saudis. Our friends across the pond should look out for angry looking Yemenis wearing vests soon. "This deal has President Trump throwing gasoline on someone else's little house fire and locking the door on his way out."

Cui bono.

WhaddaYaKnow...???
The victims/dead aren't even buried yet and this thread is filling up with apologists for the killers...
>Holy Shit

A long read but worthwhile, on how UK/US support and supply of Saudi Arabia is contributing to Islamic terrorist groups:

"We are in serious trouble unless this all changes. Our leaders’ policies are endangering us, and are among our major threats. The terrorism that we, ordinary people, face, derives from an ideology and infrastructure to which our leaders, claiming to protect us, have contributed. We desperately need another foreign policy entirely, one based on support for those promoting democracy and human rights – rather on than those with contempt for them"


http://markcurtis.info/2017/05/24/the-british-establishment-is-putting-our-lives-at-risk-our-states-key-ally-is-a-major-public-threat/

If this is true then it is appalling...

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/facebook-shows-wannabe-terrorists-make-home-made-nail-bombs-115201266.html

Well done Head Heritage...
You have managed once again to turn into a right proper mob of gang-fuckers.
But thats Ok, really it is.
As per usual, the worlds opinion on this tragedy is far more in line with my points of view than with most of the 'contributions' in this thread.
I can live with that.