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moss May 1, 2017 10:34:40
Replying to thesweetcheat

1) [quote="thesweetcheat"]I don't particularly want to get into making personal comments, but since I've been mentioned by name I will just say that what I believe in is equality and social justice. I believe that these things are being deliberately prevented by Tory policies and I would like to understand why people keep voting for inequity and inequality as a choice.


2)"Socialism isn't complex, it means a deep, central belief, natural in your heart, that the poor should not be so poor and the rich should not be so rich".

I applaud your conviction, but just think that there is little to overcome the complacency and corruption that lies at the bottom of our society, it is endemic. Striving for an idealistic socialist goal should always be the aim, what I find though is that there is little disruption in the society we live in, why aren't people protesting on the streets, why aren't judges, as they are doing in America, upending the destructive policies of their idiot president. Our media speculates ad infinitum (as they do here on this thread) where does it get us?
I believe a little chaos and revolution would not come amiss, outside this small country of ours we see tyrants and the right becoming stronger, will the EU survive that?
What we need is a new political system, basic income maybe, and a few greedy people slammed into prison for a long life sentence. There is a whole raft of wrongdoing out there, not sure the Labour party will be able to do anything about it. So my choice is either not vote, or tactically vote labour, or as someone said 'vote for your mindset' which is the environment.
I believe there are a lot of good people out there still prepared to help their fellow human beings, overcome their complacency, cut out central government (waste of space) think that is happening already and we may get somewhere.

T thesweetcheat
thesweetcheat May 2, 2017 21:23:05
Replying to moss

Much to agree with there, people would perhaps be more likely to protest if they had reliable sources of information beyond the hideously right-biased media (and I include the BBC with that). I think it would help if the deluded middle classes stopped siding with the rich, and accepted the fact that they are being shafted just the same - I'd recommend a read of The Road To Wigan Pier on this point, as nothing much has changed.

I also agree that we need a different system and would love to see proportional representative replace first past the post, which only serves to perpetuate the useless short-termist approach to governance and politics as conflict. Countries with PR also have generally higher percentages of female politicians, something the UK falls very short on (barely scraping 30%) but which I think would help make Parliament more co-operative and less adversarial, as women politicians tend to be more willing to work across party lines than their male counterparts.