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moss Apr 29, 2017 09:46:31
Replying to nigelswift

nigelswift wrote:
What a monumental fecking neck to accuse us of
"knowing that I won't come back at you. You know, the cowards way!"....

.... when you've spent the last few years over on the Copycat Journal attacking me personally in the nastiest way imaginable for all you are worth!!

Be gone with you, you vexatious person.

All the best,
Nige

Being hateful, just some of the words you can use;

abominable, execrable, abhorrent, repugnant; invidious, loathsome. Hateful, obnoxious, odious, offensive refer to something that causes strong dislike or annoyance. Hateful implies actually causing hatred or extremely strong dislike:

It seems to me, and this is addressed to Nigel and tjj, that your hate for Sanctuary and Littlestone curdles every pore in your bodies. Why? Why can’t you express your own views without making offensive remarks. Surely the point of a debate is the argument without the personal. There were two little girls on a radio programme yesterday, and one said you should respect the person you are arguing with. She went on to say ‘I may like pizza with marshmallows on top, you on the other hand like chocolate cake, which I accept and respect’. Simplistic maybe, but just because someone doesn’t agree with you doesn’t mean you have to verbally attack them.
You note that I do not include the TSC in this, I think he has a strong line of pure belief that runs through his soul, he has the need to understand.

And before you start on me, (here it comes peeps ???? I shall FLOUNCE) pushing someone’s (i.e. Sanctuary) buttons always triggers a response and it gets incredibly boring. And tjj take it from me you are never going to wind up Littlestone to respond to you, so please move on..

Moss, with not much love! X

N nigelswift
nigelswift Apr 29, 2017 10:09:34
Replying to moss

I fully explained my views on Roy's behaviour in my last two posts so have no need to add anything else or to defend myself for thinking what I or others do.

All the best,
Nige

(As for "Littlestone curdles every pore in your bodies. Why?" .... you don't REALLY want to drag that up do you? Thought not.)

T tjj
tjj Apr 29, 2017 18:16:47
Replying to moss

What sanctimonious rubbish. I don't hate anyone but that doesn't mean I won't comment on right-leaning views posing as 'wisdom' when posted on a political forum - if I don't agree with what has been said. Flounce away if you want to.

T tjj
tjj Apr 30, 2017 00:43:51
Replying to moss

moss wrote:
nigelswift wrote:
What a monumental fecking neck to accuse us of
"knowing that I won't come back at you. You know, the cowards way!"....
.... when you've spent the last few years over on the Copycat Journal attacking me personally in the nastiest way imaginable for all you are worth!!
Be gone with you, you vexatious person.

All the best,
Nige

Being hateful, just some of the words you can use;

abominable, execrable, abhorrent, repugnant; invidious, loathsome. Hateful, obnoxious, odious, offensive refer to something that causes strong dislike or annoyance. Hateful implies actually causing hatred or extremely strong dislike:

It seems to me, and this is addressed to Nigel and tjj, that your hate for Sanctuary and Littlestone curdles every pore in your bodies. Why? Why can’t you express your own views without making offensive remarks. Surely the point of a debate is the argument without the personal. There were two little girls on a radio programme yesterday, and one said you should respect the person you are arguing with. She went on to say ‘I may like pizza with marshmallows on top, you on the other hand like chocolate cake, which I accept and respect’. Simplistic maybe, but just because someone doesn’t agree with you doesn’t mean you have to verbally attack them.
You note that I do not include the TSC in this, I think he has a strong line of pure belief that runs through his soul, he has the need to understand.

And before you start on me, (here it comes peeps ???? I shall FLOUNCE) pushing someone’s (i.e. Sanctuary) buttons always triggers a response and it gets incredibly boring. And tjj take it from me you are never going to wind up Littlestone to respond to you, so please move on..

Moss, with not much love! X

I read your post on a train earlier this evening on my way back from a day out looking at wild orchids. I replied briefly basically because the train was held up and I had nothing better to do. Have since re-read it and have to remind you (although no-one here will give a 'feck') that it was Littlestone who, some years back, was the ring leader in trying to get everyone to ostracize me on the TMA forum - after he was unsuccessful in getting me banned. You were careful to exclude Thesweetcheat from your egregious accusation perhaps because he was around then as well and didn't get drawn into that unkind behaviour. I don't use your word 'hate' and you don't need to give me a dictionary definition of it - I'm not illiterate.

I'm surprised and somewhat disappointed Moss as I have mostly been courteous to you and recall speaking up for you on TMA when you were unfairly 'attacked' on a blog by someone named Paul Barford. As I said in my previous brief response, feel free to flounce if you wish but as with Sanctuary -no one is making you.

T thesweetcheat
thesweetcheat Apr 30, 2017 20:38:26
Replying to moss

I don't particularly want to get into making personal comments, but since I've been mentioned by name I will just say that what I believe in is equality and social justice. I believe that these things are being deliberately prevented by Tory policies and I would like to understand why people keep voting for inequity and inequality as a choice.

Tony Wilson said this about socialism, and it's good enough for me as the basis for how I think about most political issues. Underneath all the flannel and spin, this is at the heart of my political views:

"Socialism isn't complex, it means a deep, central belief, natural in your heart, that the poor should not be so poor and the rich should not be so rich".

I genuinely struggle to understand why people do not think that this is how a just and fair society should operate, or why people vote Tory in the full knowledge that doing so increases inequality as the few get better off at the expense of the many. Arguments that we can't afford to provide for the needy are clearly nonsensical when the UK is the fifth wealthiest country on the planet - what's needed is wealth redistribution, not cuts. I personally believe in proportionate taxation of wealth, and pay a pretty big chunk of my income in tax (certainly a much bigger percentage that the corporations who earn billions do). I do so in the hope that it is used wisely by those in power, but see no evidence of this from the Tory government that had mishandled the economy far worse than any Labour government ever did, while ensuring that those with vested interests (Capita, Serco, G4, etc) continue to profit handsomely from the taxpayer while delivering far worse services for more money.

I am not ashamed of my beliefs and therefore I answer questions about them from sanshee and Littlestone (why I voted remain, etc). My answers are only my opinion. I do struggle to understand what makes Tory voters so reluctant to give their reasons for voting Tory. None of the three people in this thread who have stated, without being asked or pressured, that they will vote Tory have been willing to say which Tory policies have made them take this decision. My own opinion on Tory policies is that they are geared to helping the selfish and greedy, or those with right wing views. But that's merely my opinion and I must be missing something, because there is obviously an attraction to voting Tory that I can't for the life of me see but many others can.