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dhajjieboy wrote:
Or sink like a stone, and become forever more a poxy shit stained isle.
Hahahaha! Better than getting nuked by a China/Iran/North Korea/Russian coalition – that’s the direction Orange Boy is taking you buddy :-) Or getting fleeced into oblivion by a failed Euro and a failing EU political project. We might sink for a bit (though personally I don’t think we will) but this ‘shit-stained isle’ punches way above its weight in the intentional arena and will punch even higher once the shackles of the EU are shaken off.

As for British politicians; there are few, in any of the parties here, with the diplomatic calibre of Theresa May. I’m not a Conservative supporter but she’ll get my vote this time around; the alternatives are unthinkable. Jeremy Corbyn is living in a socialist cloud cuckoo-land; his policies would bankrupt the country before the end of his first term as prime minister. Diane Abbott as Home Secretary? I think not, the woman can barely string two words together to make a coherent sentence. Paul Nuttall of UKIP would take us down a nationalistic back alley with a brick wall at the end. Or how about Mr Wet Blanket himself, Tim Farron, leader of the LibDems? Cathy Newman on Channel 4 News asked him repeatedly yesterday if he thought homosexuality was a sin. He refused to confirm or deny that it was, saying only that as a Christian he wasn’t prepared to get into a theological debate about it. And as for Nicola Sturgeon (also yesterday) she had the gall to accuse May of putting her party before the country. For feck's sake! That’s what Sturgeon does every day of the fecking week! The hypocrisy of the woman! (forgive the double use of the F word ;-) How about a coalition of all or some of the above? Oh what fun that would be... not...

You’re right about one thing though; what you’re seeing on this thread (and others) is, “Pretty much what Head Heritage has become.” It’s mostly opinion based, lacks careful, let alone critical, analysis of issues, and with a hole in the ‘Facts’ Bucket’ as big as a dinner plate.

Just for the sake of accuracy,
I'm on record here on this site as having not voted for the "orange one".
He is a 4 year transitory figure that we have to deal with....i don't think he truly represents the mandate of the U.S....he was seated by only 20% of the American populace...
Voter apathy.
My most fervent hopes go with the UK, as half my ancestry derives from thence.
I've owned my {Meriden factory} 650cc 1971 Triumph Bonneville motorcycle 30 years now.
I know what the isles were capable of.
Maybe Arthur will awake from his slumbers in Avalon and reunite a worthy round table....
Or maybe it's the "sleeper awakes" as H.G. Wells envisioned....not so good.

Littlestone wrote:
I’m not a Conservative supporter but she’ll get my vote this time around; the alternatives are unthinkable.
Everyone is falling for it, it seems. Make the election all about Brexit (and "crushing the saboteurs", as the gutter press have put it this morning - so much for a "sense of unity") and she gets an increased majority to push through the Tory real agendas.

She's using the opportunity presented by Brexit to secure power for the things she really wants to do, get rid human rights law, increase draconian powers for the security services, end environmental protections, deregulate everything, pursue her idiotic grammar schools policy. That's what you are really voting for if you vote for May, don't kid yourself she's "safe". She clearly dislikes the idea of opposition or debate in Parliament, just like her media paymasters.

Littlestone wrote:
dhajjieboy wrote:
Or sink like a stone, and become forever more a poxy shit stained isle.
Hahahaha! Better than getting nuked by a China/Iran/North Korea/Russian coalition – that’s the direction Orange Boy is taking you buddy :-) Or getting fleeced into oblivion by a failed Euro and a failing EU political project. We might sink for a bit (though personally I don’t think we will) but this ‘shit-stained isle’ punches way above its weight in the intentional arena and will punch even higher once the shackles of the EU are shaken off.

As for British politicians; there are few, in any of the parties here, with the diplomatic calibre of Theresa May. I’m not a Conservative supporter but she’ll get my vote this time around; the alternatives are unthinkable. Jeremy Corbyn is living in a socialist cloud cuckoo-land; his policies would bankrupt the country before the end of his first term as prime minister. Diane Abbott as Home Secretary? I think not, the woman can barely string two words together to make a coherent sentence. Paul Nuttall of UKIP would take us down a nationalistic back alley with a brick wall at the end. Or how about Mr Wet Blanket himself, Tim Farron, leader of the LibDems? Cathy Newman on Channel 4 News asked him repeatedly yesterday if he thought homosexuality was a sin. He refused to confirm or deny that it was, saying only that as a Christian he wasn’t prepared to get into a theological debate about it. And as for Nicola Sturgeon (also yesterday) she had the gall to accuse May of putting her party before the country. For feck's sake! That’s what Sturgeon does every day of the fecking week! The hypocrisy of the woman! (forgive the double use of the F word ;-) How about a coalition of all or some of the above? Oh what fun that would be... not...

You’re right about one thing though; what you’re seeing on this thread (and others) is, “Pretty much what Head Heritage has become.” It’s mostly opinion based, lacks careful, let alone critical, analysis of issues, and with a hole in the ‘Facts’ Bucket’ as big as a dinner plate.

My word! You've come a long way from that anarchist poet-painter I knew as a naive teenager. A couple of things in your post I feel the need to mention - as I know you are a stickler for accuracy. I think you meant 'international' not 'intentional'. And if you are going use the F word, use it. Feck is only really effective when used by an Irish person. I'm not going to comment on any of the other stuff except to say I strongly disagree.

Also, as I have no way of contacting you, I have some sad news from your Swindon Art School days. A mutual friend, Jan White (married to artist Ken White) died suddenly on 17th January this year. It was a great shock as the last time I saw her she was smiling as she always did and didn't mention she was ill. She was a life-long Labour supporter who, after she stopped working as a teacher, worked unpaid with refugees and asylum seekers. I attended her funeral on a bleak desolate day and resolved to spend what's left of my unimportant life trying to make a difference to our to the way we treat those less fortunate and of course the environment. As writer David Mitchell said of his novel Bone Clocks - we are defecating into the well-spring of our existence. This 'snap' election is the opportunity to make a difference - our vote is all we have.

A 'coalition' as you describe would be a nightmare indeed.
The SNP will never be your friend, they do not want the UK to succeed in any way they want it to fail. Remember that. If the vote in 'England' dictates the outcome I will say to that, thank you. I mean it sincerely.
This election ain't even about politics in any 'class tribalism' sense like it ought to be, it's more urgent than that, and not nearly as pleasant.
On a lighter note, I feel too many are taken by the guttural, glottal stop in the way Sturgeon pronounces *Toareez*.
Jesus Christ she really hates them!
That's just how we speak up here, believe me, like so many others, her folks were one of many to benefit from the great council house grab in the 80s, courtesy of the hated *Toareez*.
In fact its 'everywhere' up here.

Littlestone wrote:
Diane Abbott as Home Secretary? I think not, the woman can barely string two words together to make a coherent sentence.
I rest my case. http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=20&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjehsXEkdHTAhUMCcAKHd_GBBoQFghxMBM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lbc.co.uk%2Fradio%2Fpresenters%2Fnick-ferrari%2Fdiane-abbotts-agonising-interview-over-policy-cost%2F&usg=AFQjCNHVBvXDTJSpmDN2E6_SpvS8aBEKLQ