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IanB Nov 14, 2015 19:41:09
Replying to carol27

carol27 wrote:
billding68 wrote:
carol27 wrote:
thispoison wrote:
On a night like this I'd happily see every Mosque in Europe bulldozed. Maybe a more measured response later.
Maybe...

Overall, though, I am with Julian in his hatred of Islam. Not a view I have come to without some soul-searching. Sorry if that offends any well-meaning but impotent liberals in these parts.

Not that I side with our glorious political leaders and their actions in the Middle East which have made their own unique and malign contribution to current events. But I was over in Paris in 1995, and Islamic terrorists were killing people there even then. Well before 9/11 and the subsequent invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. Plus ça change.

Jihadi John died far too painlessly. Hilariously, I have heard that Jeremy Corbyn would have preferred his arrest and trial. Words fail me on that view...

BTW, the ones to feel sorry for are the poor bastards who just went out on a Friday night to enjoy themselves and didn't make it home. And their families and friends.

So, what do you suggest we do?
Abolish Islam from the Western world completely. Islam is not a faith of peace but of Aggression. Islam teaches to lay in wait until the time is right and destroy your enemy at any cost. Islam teaches that those who submit to Allah's will and sacrifice themselves will be rewarded. Islam is a cancer. Would the western world be worse off if Islam was no longer a threat? Give them Somalia, build a wall around it, and let them destroy themselves.
Sorry I don't actually know how to begin responding to that.
I remember angry people here back in the 70s saying the exact same thing about Northern Ireland in the aftermath of some new atrocity perpetrated by one side or the other.

Made no sense then. Makes even less sense in this case given that this is a borderless conflict.

Look at where the funding comes from and start there. Though I don't remember anyone here in that era baying for the RAF to bomb Boston or Philadelphia in retaliation for US contributions to Noraid.

I would steer away from stigmatising a billion and half plus individuals who like you and I are just trying to get by. We know exactly where that train of thought ends if it gains momentum.

C carol27
carol27 Nov 14, 2015 20:02:37
Replying to IanB

IanB wrote:
carol27 wrote:
billding68 wrote:
carol27 wrote:
thispoison wrote:
On a night like this I'd happily see every Mosque in Europe bulldozed. Maybe a more measured response later.
Maybe...

Overall, though, I am with Julian in his hatred of Islam. Not a view I have come to without some soul-searching. Sorry if that offends any well-meaning but impotent liberals in these parts.

Not that I side with our glorious political leaders and their actions in the Middle East which have made their own unique and malign contribution to current events. But I was over in Paris in 1995, and Islamic terrorists were killing people there even then. Well before 9/11 and the subsequent invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. Plus ça change.

Jihadi John died far too painlessly. Hilariously, I have heard that Jeremy Corbyn would have preferred his arrest and trial. Words fail me on that view...

BTW, the ones to feel sorry for are the poor bastards who just went out on a Friday night to enjoy themselves and didn't make it home. And their families and friends.

So, what do you suggest we do?
Abolish Islam from the Western world completely. Islam is not a faith of peace but of Aggression. Islam teaches to lay in wait until the time is right and destroy your enemy at any cost. Islam teaches that those who submit to Allah's will and sacrifice themselves will be rewarded. Islam is a cancer. Would the western world be worse off if Islam was no longer a threat? Give them Somalia, build a wall around it, and let them destroy themselves.
Sorry I don't actually know how to begin responding to that.
I remember angry people here back in the 70s saying the exact same thing about Northern Ireland in the aftermath of some new atrocity perpetrated by one side or the other.

Made no sense then. Makes even less sense in this case given that this is a borderless conflict.

Look at where the funding comes from and start there. Though I don't remember anyone here in that era baying for the RAF to bomb Boston or Philadelphia in retaliation for US contributions to Noraid.

I would steer away from stigmatising a billion and half plus individuals who like you and I are just trying to get by. We know exactly where that train of thought ends if it gains momentum.

I was just thinking that. Round people up, put them on trains, hold them in camps....