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thispoison Nov 14, 2015 00:50:56
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On a night like this I'd happily see every Mosque in Europe bulldozed. Maybe a more measured response later.
Maybe...

Overall, though, I am with Julian in his hatred of Islam. Not a view I have come to without some soul-searching. Sorry if that offends any well-meaning but impotent liberals in these parts.

Not that I side with our glorious political leaders and their actions in the Middle East which have made their own unique and malign contribution to current events. But I was over in Paris in 1995, and Islamic terrorists were killing people there even then. Well before 9/11 and the subsequent invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. Plus ça change.

Jihadi John died far too painlessly. Hilariously, I have heard that Jeremy Corbyn would have preferred his arrest and trial. Words fail me on that view...

BTW, the ones to feel sorry for are the poor bastards who just went out on a Friday night to enjoy themselves and didn't make it home. And their families and friends.

D dhajjieboy
dhajjieboy Nov 14, 2015 00:56:32
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thispoison wrote:
BTW, the ones to feel sorry for are the poor bastards who just went out on a Friday night to enjoy themselves and didn't make it home. And their families and friends.
Thanks for clearing that up.

S sanshee
sanshee Nov 14, 2015 10:31:34
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thispoison wrote:
Jihadi John died far too painlessly. Hilariously, I have heard that Jeremy Corbyn would have preferred his arrest and trial. Words fail me on that view...
As did the widow of David Haines, as did the mother of James Foley.

And others.

I can't say their position is either right or wrong.

It is how they feel.

C Captain Starlet
Captain Starlet Nov 14, 2015 10:38:40
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thispoison wrote:
On a night like this I'd happily see every Mosque in Europe bulldozed. Maybe a more measured response later.
Maybe...

Overall, though, I am with Julian in his hatred of Islam. Not a view I have come to without some soul-searching. Sorry if that offends any well-meaning but impotent liberals in these parts.
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Good luck with that 'measured response'

C carol27
carol27 Nov 14, 2015 16:34:58
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thispoison wrote:
On a night like this I'd happily see every Mosque in Europe bulldozed. Maybe a more measured response later.
Maybe...

Overall, though, I am with Julian in his hatred of Islam. Not a view I have come to without some soul-searching. Sorry if that offends any well-meaning but impotent liberals in these parts.

Not that I side with our glorious political leaders and their actions in the Middle East which have made their own unique and malign contribution to current events. But I was over in Paris in 1995, and Islamic terrorists were killing people there even then. Well before 9/11 and the subsequent invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. Plus ça change.

Jihadi John died far too painlessly. Hilariously, I have heard that Jeremy Corbyn would have preferred his arrest and trial. Words fail me on that view...

BTW, the ones to feel sorry for are the poor bastards who just went out on a Friday night to enjoy themselves and didn't make it home. And their families and friends.

So, what do you suggest we do? Jihad?

P Popel Vooje
Popel Vooje Nov 14, 2015 17:51:01
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thispoison wrote:
On a night like this I'd happily see every Mosque in Europe bulldozed.
On a night like this I'd happily see all religious belief being made an into an imprisonable offence worldwide, frankly. And that includes Nazism, Marxism/Leninism, Maoism and all the other belief systems which are religions in all but name. Not that people - being people - wouldn't find other excuses to slaughter each other en masse of course...

Re Jeremy Corbyns's statement - I think it makes more sense than you give it credit for, given that Jihadists seek martrydom and that by killing them you're giving them exactly what they want. I think arrest and trial would be a more humiliating punishment and would be less likely to fuel further revenge attacks in the west. I doubt he's suggesting that Jihadi John shouldn't have been killed if that were the only logistically possible means of extinguishing the threat - just that it would have been preferable if the alternatives of arrest and trial HAD been feasible.