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thispoison wrote:
http://wingsoverscotland.com/normal-service-resumed/#more-76026
IanB wrote:
drewbhoy wrote:
He claimed the SNP privatised Scotrail (privatised by the Tories), Calmac (its owned by the Scottish Govt.), he said the SNP were anti austerity (obviously didn't see party leaders debate), Labour agreeing to Tory fiscal policy if in power, no debate on Trident (he's supposed to be against Trident and on the side of peace :-( )

Now I have nothing to do with the SNP and don't vote for them but he should at least do his homework.

I watched the same programme and found his push back at the SNP pretty mild considering. I didn't hear him say anything about supporting the Tories on fiscal policy. I don't understand your point about the SNP and austerity. The no debate on Trident was a conference decision. He wanted one. Conference didn't. He has not abandoned it at all. He quite specifically said he hoped to be able to turn his colleagues around. If JC is making other shit up then I would be kind of disappointed but in the end it would just be goose/gander. I do hope Labour will do a deal with the Greens in certain constituencies. That would be progress.
So McDonnell's lies were "pretty mild considering"? Maybe from where you're sitting.

He said Labour were the only true anti-austerity party now. Another lie. So I imagine what Drew meant was "he said the SNP were NOT anti austerity". A simple typo.

I've lost all faith in these two - Corbyn & McDonnell - in the past couple days of bare-faced lying. It just may have been a good idea to seek consensus and alliance with like minded parties where you can - and you yourself mention the Greens, who played an excellent part in the pro-indepence campaign in Scotland last year - against the Tories and their austerity agenda. Y'know - the REAL enemy. But no, too small minded and hurting from their near-wipeout here in the General Election for that. And too "Tribal" - oh, yes. So fuck 'em. Labour clearly still do not have a clue about Scotland. Game on.

PS/
I know I've posted links to Wings Over Scotland articles before, but I really do recommend readers take a few minutes to read the one below, which explores the "basis" for McDonnell's Conference speech SNP howlers. You'll maybe begin to realise the depths of mendacity to which Scottish Labour will stoop in their efforts to try to discredit the SNP at any opportunity.:

http://wingsoverscotland.com/normal-service-resumed/#more-76026

WingsOverScotland is a good place as is pretty fair and tho pro independence can be quite neutral. When I'm at it have a look at the RedTory/Tory coalition figures for Stirling. Shameful :-(

Cheers Poison, that was a typo. As for the Greens, we'll deal with Labour in Scotland as well by becoming the 2nd party in Scotland and working with the Scottish Govt. on the Greener issues :-) On that and other issues at least we won't abstain!!!

Wings Over Scotland a 'fair place?
What about Claire Lally?
A young mum who won carer of the year and went out campaigning during the ref, bringing in some of her experiences of caring for her disabled child and the challenges she and millions of others face (for the ones in the rest of the UK were are important to her also)
That odious little creep the 'reverend' Stuart Campbell you and *Poison* seem to have so much respect for sought to cause misery for her, saying she was related to an ex provost and therefor had some 'advantage' somewhere.
Yes, she was a Labour party member (not illegal up here, yet), but the rest was lies.
She stood on a stage and spoke up for her cause, describing herself as an ordinary mum which SNP campign chief, Campbell Gunn took exception too, because she was a Labour Party member.
What did that mean?
To top it off he decided to cite 'Wings Over Scotland' as a reliable source to ramp up the attack on her, and took an official line on it.
As for the Calmac situation, there is something in the Smith Commission regards not having to put certain services out to tender, but the SNP rushed it through anyway.
http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-7ec5-What-the-SNP-says-v-what-the-SNP-does#.VgpUBi8QWP8
**The Smith Commission on further devolution concluded that “the power will be devolved to the Scottish government to allow public-sector operators to bid for rail franchises funded and specified by Scottish ministers.”**
Corbyn DID NOT LIE.
Open your eyes Drew FFS.