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keith a wrote:
So what if he's helped 2 million people?

He's got a big ego and I don't like him.

He's had his photo taken with people I don't like.

And the last few albums have been shit. Well I've not actually heard them but they sold millions so they must be.

I wish he'd just let people suffer and leave me in peace.

Not my views btw. Far from it. But, cutting through the chaff, isn't this the view of some folk here?

What a great post.

My concern is the same - that 99% of the opprobrium that is directed at Bono from the wolrd of cool is there because he fails on the rock n roll cool-o-meter. That and having the temerity to be an "out" Christian.

That Bono is doing anything at all is miraculous when he could be sitting on his ass all day disseceting Post Modernism with Eno, Bowie and David Byrne over a bottle or three of Romanee Conti.

Meanwhile someone like Peter Gabriel gets a pass because he made a few decent records a long time ago and because he got a hair cut and bailed out on Prog just as Punk appeared on the horizon. Lke Fripp and Hammill. Sure he has a well considered world music label and once upon a time nearly went bust putting on Womad but how releasing a few albums by third world artists compares favourably with what Bono has done is beyond me. And what is the difference between Bono's activism and Eno's War Child?

At it's very worst rock n roll culture rejects earnestness and embraces smoke and mirrors. Adores posturing but mistrusts poise. Idolises the buzz-word but is suspicious of substance. Derides effort and praises sloth. Mistrusts real activism but lionises the myth of teenage rampage. In other words rock n roll is the very embodiment of adolescent self-regard and there are few things that teenagers seem to hate more than people who try hard and don't try to hide it.

About the few things that teenagers hate more.....
I don't think there's any here.
Loads of folks who think they are revolutionary heads though. Nigh on their 40's or older.
Whats their excuse? The Snubbin', Drubbin' and Hub-Bubbin'.....
Jaded ?
Thinkin' a haircut and duds {or perhaps some mascara} is all it takes to make the revolutinary set?
Nah....can't be that, I've seen pictures of the 'HEADS' here posted from shows...Lots of fat balding leather jacket wearin' agein' Righteous dudes....
Still Hatin'.....the good fight. The one that actually matters.
Won't get much done in a big plaster head.
Do we all have plaster heads?
What is the good fight anymore?
Knockin' down anything that makes a profit...Having a regular job...skating on the thin ice of life?
What?
Name dropping the old Revolutinary's who have entered into the pop culture conscienceness? Ceptin' Jesus.....that is.
Is following there examples possible?
As you said IAN, who gets rated on the cool meter and who is Righteously flounced off of it by the ever shifting popular consensus? I'm losing my perspective here.
Isn't it the "RICH FOLK's!!" that enable most of us that actually work to have a Job at all?
Can somebody PLEASE tell me what a "RICH PERSON"{in the constantly derisive meaning as it is bandied about in these parts} IS? Whats the aproximate figure? Is it anyone who has got more than me? GOT WHAT.....
I want to be accurate {and righteous} when i snub my nieghbors, countrymen, or fellow species members because they are too 'RICH' by the standards as agreed upon right here on H.H.
If i'm going to be accused of dividing and conquering...i want to do it on a spectacular scale.
I'd like to make it my lifes work to single out the haves from the have nots.
I'm gonna make sure that the HAVEs sure as fuck cough up, what 'I' think is their fair share, to THEM whats got it coming.
And man, there's loads of 'THEM'...
I think that is just the thing for me....We all know that its uncool to be racist or religous, or the 'WRONG' political party affiliation....Just imagine, something to wrap my RIGHTEOUSLY guided HATE and indignation towards.
Those "RICH" cuntys is gonna pay i tell ya!!
Startin' with that BONO fella.

Ian wrote:
That Bono is doing anything at all is miraculous when he could be sitting on his ass all day disseceting Post Modernism with Eno, Bowie and David Byrne over a bottle or three of Romanee Conti.
Yeah well, perhaps Bono et al is doingh the same sort of thing, only with 'poverty' being the hot topic of choice.

I say that because from what I've read, the One 'awareness campaigning' can't make any real claim to achieveing anything that wouldn't have happened otherwise, with others on the ground getting their nails dirty and from what they see their heart broken, every day.

If I'm wrong, I'd like to see the evidence, and I'll accept it,but I've read a few things to the contrary.

Also, a staff of 120 costing over 8m?

Very unedifying.

All this 'you only complain because it's Bono' defence is as reactionary as actually complaining for that very reason.

I think there's far more to consdier here.

My donations go to the physical world.

EDIT: Hopefully, and I'm sure, as well as 'this 'Bono does that too.

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