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I must admit that I find the vitriol that gets aimed at Bono a little mystifying. Certainly his public outbursts are occasionally cringe-worthy, and there's definitely something about his swagger that can be irritating. On top of that, I echo Merrick's sentiment that Bono's eagerness for photo-ops with the likes of Dubya Bush and Tony Blair (and saying appalling things like Blair and Brown are "the Lennon and McCartney of global development") probably do more harm than good -- the tyrants get the publicity and the magical sheen of superstardom, and Bono gets empty promises in return. If the phrase "the Lennon and McCartney of global development" actually meant anything at all, it wouldn't apply to the kind of men who launch wars of aggression.

However, when taken as a whole, I don't think Bono does more harm than good in the world. Far from it. And given how many people out there genuinely do more harm than good... well, the heavy criticism levelled at Bono always seems misplaced to me.

You might not like his music, which is fair enough. I do as it happens (well, there are three U2 albums that -- for me -- are honest-to-god works of genius; the rest I can take or leave), but the negativity he attracts is surely not down to people disliking his music. There's lots of music I don't enjoy, but I don't have a problem with the people making it... I just choose not to listen to them.

No, the problem people have with Bono seems to be to do with his philanthropic work. It just doesn't seem to be enough for some. And yet, if you actually look at what he has done, it's little short of amazing.

A recent documentary on RTE televison estimated that there are 2 million people in Africa today who have access to fresh water, medical care and education directly as a result of his work and donations. Two million people!

For me; that right there is a get out of jail free card for his insufferability. He can stand on his city-sized stage and pretend to be Jesus in a different stadium every night if that's what it takes to keep him going. You, after all, don't have to buy a ticket.

And the point is; that is what keeps him going. His massive ego, his messianic complex and delusions of personally changing the world... those things might make you a pain in the arse, but they help a lot when you're trying to dramatically improve the lives of millions.

As for the tax issue? Once again, just like that New York Post article which completely misrepresents the facts* in order to stick the boot in, the tax issue has been greatly exaggerated.

Like most businesses making hundreds of millions per year, U2 have accountants to handle the finances (though the image of Larry, Bono, Adam and The Edge sitting down in front of complicated ledgers after every show amuses me). These accountants are paid to maximise the profits from the business -- as are accountants in any business (remember, this is U2 we're talking about, not Bono's charitable works).

So, in order to do their jobs properly, those accountants shifted some of the company's holdings to the Netherlands to reduce the tax liability. It's crappy that we live in a world where big business does that; but it is the world we live in... and blaming a business for acting like a business is a strange thing to do. Instead we should be rewriting the rules so that "acting like a business" involves far more social benefit, and less naked profit.

Having said all that, the RTE programme made the point that Bono earns 95% of his income outside Ireland, but pays about 40% of his tax inside Ireland -- even after moving certain parts of the business overseas. So the issue is overstated, and Ireland still earns plenty from U2.

Even if we didn't though... two million people with vastly improved lives because of one man's efforts? I say cut him some slack, and just switch over when he starts annoying you on the telly.

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* The 'One' organisation is a campaigning group not a distributive charity. If you want to criticise it for failing to pass on donations to the poor, then at least be consistent and criticise Amnesty International too, for not giving their donations directly to political prisoners. Like Amnesty, like Greenpeace, like many others, 'One' uses its resources to campaign -- in their case, against poverty. And in our heavily mediated world, that tends to mean press-packs and wining-and-dining people in media, business and politics.

I like a bit of U2 now and then as it happens and I do think they genuinely give "good arena" live. They are very good at it.

I agree with yuo for the most part Grufty. I mean, I know that Bono has done a fuck of a lot more 'good' in the world than I have, so, as cringeworthy as he has been getting lately - and it IS much more so in the last few years - I ain't particularly gonna give him stick. Take the piss maybe, but...you know..

Thing is though, he HAS been more overtly messianic and in yer face in recent times. I always thought the rest of the band were ok with Bono saving the world as long as it didn't negativel impact on the band as such. I don't mean commercially, though sales of their last album were very poor for them - just the perception of 'em. However, I think Bono's recent schtick - all the world leaders on speed dial stuff - IS now impacting on U2 in a negative manner and I suspect, before a new album, a quite word in his shell like might be due from the other three. If he's got any sense at all and at least some perception of how many people are feeling right now, he should rein it in a bit. He can still do all his good works. But I think the appetite for multi-millionaire rockstars in the pulpit is very small right now, and if he wants U2 to still have some clout, I reckon he'd be wise to recognise that.

I'm with you on that one, Jim. I don't like him or his music, but there is no denying that the man has done a lot of good for a lot of people. So I love him for that, dislike him for just about everything else.!

So what if he's helped 2 million people?

He's got a big ego and I don't like him.

He's had his photo taken with people I don't like.

And the last few albums have been shit. Well I've not actually heard them but they sold millions so they must be.

I wish he'd just let people suffer and leave me in peace.

Not my views btw. Far from it. But, cutting through the chaff, isn't this the view of some folk here?

I reckon possibly the most important essay posted in U-Know was Robin Fishwick's article, In Defense of Hypocricy

People rail against the likes of Bono and Sting, but nobody's dander is raised when public figures make no attempt to do the right thing.

So if Sting does an advert for Jaguar cars, he faces criticism. But other celebrities - see Carol Vorderman, Gary Linaker, Rolf Harris, etc do not engage our anger because they make no pretence at being anythng other than talking heads.

I think it's also a big part of many of the arguments that break out here. When we espouse an ideal, we are also conscious that we cannot always live up to that ideal, and we become defensive.

But I think this guilt is built upon a misconception, by and large (I know there are exceptions)

I for one don't blame anyone for doing the best they can with what they have. We have no choice but to live within the system.

Robert Tressell wrote:
They all cursed Crass, but most of them would have been very to change
places with him: and if any one of them had been in his place they
would have been compelled to act in the same way - or lose the job.

They all reviled Hunter, but most of them would have been glad to
change places with him also: and if any one of them had been in his
place they would have been compelled to do the same things, or lose
the job.

They all hated and blamed Rushton. Yet if they had been in Rushton's
place they would have been compelled to adopt the same methods, or
become bankrupt: for it is obvious that the only way to compete
successfully against other employers who are sweaters is to be a sweater yourself. Therefore no one who is an upholder of the present
system can consistently blame any of these men. Blame the system.

If you, reader, had been one of the hands, would you have slogged? Or
would you have preferred to starve and see your family starve? If you
had been in Crass's place, would you have resigned rather than do such
dirty work? If you had had Hunter's berth, would you have given it up
and voluntarily reduced yourself to the level of the hands? If you
had been Rushton, would you rather have become bankrupt than treat
your `hands' and your customers in the same way as your competitors
treated theirs? It may be that, so placed, you - being the
noble-minded paragon that you are - would have behaved unselfishly.
But no one has any right to expect you to sacrifice yourself for the
benefit of other people who would only call you a fool for your pains.
It may be true that if any one of the hands - Owen, for instance - had
been an employer of labour, he would have done the same as other
employers. Some people seem to think that proves that the present
system is all right! But really it only proves that the present
system compels selfishness. One must either trample upon others or be
trampled upon oneself. Happiness might be possible if everyone were
unselfish; if everyone thought of the welfare of his neighbour before
thinking of his own. But as there is only a very small percentage of
such unselfish people in the world, the present system has made the
earth into a sort of hell. Under the present system there is not
sufficient of anything for everyone to have enough. Consequently
there is a fight - called by Christians the `Battle of Life'. In this
fight some get more than they need, some barely enough, some very
little, and some none at all. The more aggressive, cunning, unfeeling
and selfish you are the better it will be for you. As long as this
`Battle of Life' System endures, we have no right to blame other
people for doing the same things that we are ourselves compelled to
do. Blame the system.

Don't blame Bono. Blame a system that condemns millions to poverty, and makes such charity necessary.