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Moon Cat wrote:
But, at the heart of it appeared to be essentially, a gung-ho libertarian.
Doubtlessly that's how it started. Trouble is, if you're a gung-ho libertarian you will probably end up socialising with some fairly dodgy types. And eventually their more extreme ideas will start to seep into you. It's near impossible to avoid.

Having said that, even if he were just a gung-ho libertarian with no racist views, it'd put him on the other side of the fence from me personally. Libertarianism sounds fine and dandy if you don't look too deep below the surface, but any kind of analysis of it reveals an essentially anti-human philosophy.

EDIT: PS. I'm not actually familiar with his music, so I have no 'artistic' reason to defend or attack the guy.

Agree!

Quite like some of his tunes but he's always talked shite to me for the most part, sometimes admitedlly, in a quite entertaining way. He's a button presser, likes to wind up the "pantywaists" on the left kinda thing. It's kinda of like the audience expectation of Jeremy Clarkson - you know, go on, say something "shocking". Or of John Lydon even. But this latest thing seems more an act of stoopid desperation rather than an ideaology made manifest. Who knows?

Maybe he is hanging out with fuck-wits. Maybe that's all he can play to these days. Sad if it's true

My perception of American-style libertarianism is that it rests very much on the mythology of the 'self-made man', which is a potent one in the US mindset, and more and more so the farther west you go.

On the subject of that Grufty, the thing that's annoying me about these Ayn Randian self-styled 'libertarians' is the whole largely imaginary construct of "natural rights". They talk as though these rights actually exist, though real rights are ones that are written down and voted on, etc...