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Merrick wrote:
PMM wrote:
I just realised we have to ban strenuous exercise too.

It releases endorphins - the body's natural opiates! And it's been linked to heart attacks and arthritis

not only that, but exercise is a killer. How many more people must die jogging before we put a stop to it?

How long can we let these evil profiteers of death, the so-called 'travel agents', send people on ski-ing trips from which many never return?

Is the fun some say they get from ski-ing really worth all that suffering? some people might be able to ski responsibly but that doesn't mean it should be permitted any more than that fact that most of us would be responsible gun owners means we should have mandatory handguns. Ban these evil holidays!

I know someone who has severe mental health issues due to use of cannabis and legal highs. I'm fairly pleased this is happening, but expect to be ridiculed on this site for my views.

pooley wrote:
I know someone who has severe mental health issues due to use of cannabis and legal highs. I'm fairly pleased this is happening, but expect to be ridiculed on this site for my views.
My ex-girlfriend's mother ended up demented from constant drinking.

I don't think your point is ridiculous... my late friend Peter had serious anxiety issues from being a pothead from the age of 13.

In all things, moderation.

The point that's being made here is that yes, cannabis can make a tiny proportion of users suffer. This is no different to ski-ing holidays or peanuts. Some people *die* from peanuts, which doesn't happen for cannabis.

I have a friend who has to carry an adrenalin injection everywhere with her and cannot eat any pre-prepared food for fear of peanut contamination.

Yet who among peanut users really needs them? Is our enjoyment, that could be so easily got elsewhere, worth the suffering of those who are severely allergic? Could you stand in front of a peanut death and tell the parents that your enjoyment of peanuts is worth it?

More than this, there is also no evidence that criminalisation reduces use, or conversely that decriminalisation increases it. In the Netherlands, use went down for six years after decriminalisation, then only went up at a similar rate to prohibitionist countries. Their use is around half ours.

When the UK government downgraded cannabis, use went down. But, more interestingly, it was already going down beforehand. Classification makes no difference.

What criminalisation does do is keep production, supply (and profits) in the hands of some of the most unscrupulous people imaginable, it gives criminal records (and thereby all maner of life ruination: careers, adoption, you name it) to otherwise moral law-abiding people.

I'm sorry that your friend has suffered. Nobody has said these drugs are harmless. It is precisely because there are dangers that they should be controlled. The suffering of a tiny minority doesn't justify prohibition for cannabis any more than it does for peanuts.