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stray S
stray Jun 6, 2009 10:36:07
Replying to Lawrence

Thing is though the BNP, AFAIK, only have single seats in the local councils and really can't accomplish anything. The record they have in the local council seats that they've won in the past have been extremely poor, in fact their record for actually turning up to council meetings at all is pretty laughable (they're up there with George Galloways voting record in the house). This means, so far, that they've never been able to build at all on the little success that they've had. Long may this trend continue. So while it is shitty that they have won anything, they probably will not retain those seats, and the rest of the council will hopefully isolate them successfully.

However, in Europe they'll align themselves to the other far right parties in the parliment, and those guys, as a voting bloc, really have to be watched. Especially with the way the EU voting system works.

I IanB
IanB Jun 6, 2009 12:05:30
Replying to stray

stray wrote:
So while it is shitty that they have won anything, they probably will not retain those seats, and the rest of the council will hopefully isolate them successfully.
Over the years Private Eye has run a series of stories about their general ineptitude as councillors in various wards. I don't know what their re-election rate is like but I bet it isn't above average.

Even if as many as 1m people vote for the far right in these elections I would see that as a result for the rest of us given the general climate of fear and loathing generated by the tabs (swine flu, penury, sex offenders, asylum seekers, political correctness, teenagers and Islam in no particular order being the main sources of copy for the fear mongerers).

There was something on the radio this am about the English Democrats splitting the race fear/hate vote. I know nothing about them but they seem to be trying to offer a warm beer, cricket and brown cardigan form of libertarianism with just enough xenophobia to contest some of the BNP's ground in middle class and rural areas.

When you read the manifestos this was mainstream rank and file Tory thought 30 years ago and anti semitism was never the preserve of a fringe. Things really have moved on if we now consider those views as being firmly out on the far right.

M Merrick
Merrick Jun 7, 2009 16:41:59
Replying to stray

stray wrote:
only have single seats in the local councils and really can't accomplish anything. The record they have in the local council seats that they've won in the past have been extremely poor, in fact their record for actually turning up to council meetings at all is pretty laughable
You're boradly right, but this time they did pick up a county council seat for the first time, in Lancashire
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jun/05/bnp-wins-first-seat-county-council

But, as you say, once in power they show themselves as incompetant and dimwitted. Their seat on the Greater London Authority is hilarious
http://5cc.blogspot.com/2009/06/why-you-shouldnt-vote-for-bnp-on.html

I kind of hope they do win a Euroseat, but not Griffin. The prospect for it causing a real division in his fiefdom and ruining the party - as happened with the National Front - could do our work for us.