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geoffrey_prime May 22, 2009 03:09:49
Replying to PMM

I do not support the BNP, but I support their right to exist, within the law, as a political party.
I would prefer they be judged, by the electorate, on their policies alone...
Personally, I don't support, the "Dad's Army", "leaflet terrorism" you are trying to encourage. I think this is childish - you should hit the BNP "head-on", politically, if you oppose what they stand for. - not sure what packing out their mail bags with "stuff" for recycling will achieve...might even get them a few "green" votes..

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PMM May 22, 2009 09:24:19
Replying to geoffrey_prime

As usual, you decry any kind of political action against... well, seemingly anything. Ask Alec McFadden if he thinks the BNP are a political party that operate within the law.

This is a legal, non violent method of activism that doesn't require confrontations or riots. If even this is too much for you, what sort of direct action do you think people should use?

FIGHT FASCISM! STROKE CATS!

SIT IN A COMFY CHAIR TO DEFEND WORKERS RIGHTS!

HAVE A NICE CUP OF TEA AND PUT THE TELLY ON TO STOP GLOBALISATION!

Really. This board would be a dull place if all we were doing was rubber stamping each other's opinions.

So thank you for challenging us and forcing us to defend and refine our viewpoints.

H head-first
head-first May 22, 2009 14:37:50
Replying to geoffrey_prime

geoffrey_prime wrote:
I do not support the BNP, but I support their right to exist, within the law, as a political party.
Arguably, it's incorrect to speak of political parties having a right to exist as we might speak of individuals having a right to life. Rights are held by subjects, not an abstract collective. You could say that Jews have a right to a nation state, but to speak of Israel as having rights isn't strictly true.

Members of the BNP are fond of invoking the right to freedom of speech when promoting their policies. We don't have the right to absolute freedom speech, and rightly so, because we have a duty of respect to other races in a multicultural society. The religious and racial hatred act of 2006 enforced this in law, in an attempt to improve community relations in areas of mixed race. The right to exist does indeed apply here; as muslims and the members other cultures have a right to exist peaceably in the UK.