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Really annoys me to see those wankers smashing the windows in london.
Now, no one is talking about the issues, just the violence.

For fucks sake, the march, the sheer amount of people, the passion of some there HAD made the point, and well - this fucking mob have done us no favours.
feel free to attack me for this, I may have some windows you may smash if you feel you need to make your point in that way

pooley wrote:
Really annoys me to see those wankers smashing the windows in london.
Now, no one is talking about the issues, just the violence.

For fucks sake, the march, the sheer amount of people, the passion of some there HAD made the point, and well - this fucking mob have done us no favours.
feel free to attack me for this, I may have some windows you may smash if you feel you need to make your point in that way

Oh, so the rioting HAS started then. Most recent footage I've seen from my cosy basement in St Pancras has shown a few minor scuffles with police but nothing so dramatic as what you've described.

I'm heading down Old Street way later, not to smash windows but to watch a friend reading in a poetry bar (yeah, real radical of me I know). Better take the camera.

Thousands of people descend on a city to express their passion. A small minority come for trouble and the police present are attacked with bricks and glass bottles. Twenty-seven people are arrested.

They were Swansea FC supporters having a day out in Cardiff last year.

http://www.thisissouthwales.co.uk/news/26-arrested-violence-Swansea-v-Cardiff-football-matcharticle-453033-details/article.html

You probably won’t have read about it. The story certainly wasn’t top of every bulletin on every news network.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7977489.stm
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/demonstrations-turn-violent-1659268.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/g20-summit/5089870/G20-protests-Rioters-loot-RBS-as-demonstrations-turn-violent.html
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g97rsFx3dbUHPQSoLAaXQa97RGBwD979S04G0
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/01/g20-summit-protests
http://www.smh.com.au/world/g20-protesters-strike-at-londons-heart-20090402-9k0h.html

(etc)

Prime Minister Gordon Brown did not warn the offenders that ‘violence and intimidation will not be tolerated‘.

shamelessly pinched from here: http://www.chickyog.net/2009/04/01/heliocentric/

I was down for the G20 protests, and although I didn't actually see the break-in from where I was, it did seem to me that police actions were deliberately aggravating the situation. Using 'bubbling' -cordoning off the demonstrations and not allowing anyone in or out of an area, and within that area people were dangerously crushed together and unable to move, which is sure to cause frustration and tempers to flare, is it not?

Under the circumstances it seems to me that an attempt to occupy the Bank of Scotland was a legitimate act of protest; very much in the spirit of Paris 68 which 40 years on was the subject of many fond media reminiscences.

It was also inevitable that the press were going to use any excuse to run their pre-written stories of 'violent anarchist mobs attack the city' etc. The only violence I saw was about a dozen coppers laying into a guy with truncheons swinging, in a circle around him while he was down on the ground- I don't know what he'd done, but it certainly seemed like unneccesarily and gratuitously aggressive. While a lot of individual police were good-humoured and respectful, some were obviously keyed up for violence. And behind the yellow-jacketed bobbies for the press pictures, the black-clad hardcore riot police were also out in force.

Yeah, scooting around town it was a very mixed atmosphere- from the very tense mood around Bank tube, to the old school CND rally at Trafalgar Square, to the very fluffy peaceful carnival atmosphere of the Climate Camp at Bishopgate. A bit disorganised, perhaps, but overall the protesters dun good.

Thanks for coming to the poetry night too, Popel- good to see you!

There has always been an element of police infiltration into activities & marches. There was a thought when i was first in contact with protest/subversive elements that anybody starting on police to escalate riots/whatever was probably undercover police themselves.

You'd hope that was just paranoid but I think it was pretty widespread.
Do know that Conintelpro the late 60s US infiltration programme has been documented &would expect the UK to follow whatever lead the US had.

real shame cos it does undermine the message.

The Solidarity camp has been made wary of various people who they suspect of being undercover cops. People who turn up with some information but no outside contacts etc. thought being that anybody who did turn up in Northwest Mayo would presumably know people on the grassroots network in whatever town they supposedly came from.

In a crowd as large as the G8 protest there are bound to be a lot of people not known to any one individual who are probably thought to be known to others. Great way to infiltrate, cause trouble and get it blamed on those actually protesting.

Time the British got going... they get screwed (mainly) by their politicians and no one says a word. I live in France (and all ain't perfect here by any means...) but at least the French get out and protest.

Fucking right!

Obama, Brown, Rudd, Harper, Jintao, Sarkozy, Merkel, Berlusconi, Aso, Myung-bak, Medvedev, Motlanthe, Zapatero, Erdogan and the rest of the thugs.

the RBS 'events' were quite clearly part of a well planned police operatin, it all worked out perfectly for them.

Weeks of hype around 'violent' protests obviously require SOME violence to take place in order to justify the heavy handedness of the cops and any new powers. Leading the 'angry mob' down into an area they knew full well they could and would control, corralling tem in there, and then....just wait.

Obviously there will be some ruccus, a bit of push and shove, maybe a few windows going through - ie exactly what we got. How much damage was done to RBS and/or 'the city'? The cost of all the disruption, new windows, a couple of computers, RBS would have made/lost the same amount within the time it took for the broken glass to fall to the ground.

Meanwhile, the cops coral everyone for hours, make sure the press get some good pics of the 'riot', and that most of the protestors are actually bored shitless. And then, once the cameras have gone, they wade in and kick the shit out of everyone. It's the tactics they've been using for the last ten years at least, and they've all but perfected them.

the royals should fuck of to the yanks and take the army murderers with them, the police are power crazy wankers who need to be disassembled, and the politicians need hanging from the trees, after the last civil war the power went mainly to the politicians who have now become just as corrupt as the royals were then, we don't want the power to go back to them so we all have to make sure the power comes at last to the people of the new republic, bring on the revolution motherfuckers!!!!!!!!!

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http://www.prisonplanet.com/who-controls-the-black-bloc-anarchists.html