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stray wrote:
God yes, but although politically I'm probably extreme left I don't blame the brokers/bankers as much as I blame the system, or more accurately it's regulation.
I think you mean it's lack of regulation. The government in the USA has the memory of a gnat and the rich never forget a thing. Every time Congress loosens regulations on an industry, the predators go to work ripping off the public- it happened with the Savings and Loan 'industry' and it happened again, albeit to an even more damaging degree, with the investment banks. And every time, the government steps in and assumes the debts and passes on the losses to the average taxpayer while the execs (only a few might see jail) float gently to earth on their golden parachutes.

stray wrote:
Also brokers/bankers are going to royally fuck this new corporation for big and fast money which will prolly cause this whole thing to repeat further down the line.
Exactly.

I've been trying to get my head round the solution they're putting together, and thankfully they're not going to use the same approach they did with Savings & Loans (the RTC thing). It seems they're going to set up a government agency, a lot quicker to do than a corp, buy the debts from the banks at a discount and then auction them back to the market later. As its a govt agency this also allows a lot of leeway as to how it functions legally.

Sooo... until we see how the auction happens, at an as yet unspecified date, and the rules applied to the auction (how much debt can you buy and how you can claim back more than you paid for said debt from whatever financial institution it represents) blah, blah, we're not going to know how it all pans out.

This does however get the illiquid shite off the balance sheets of the banks which may, may, mean they start lending again, more importantly providing decent mortgages. So, the auction is going to happen once the housing market bottoms out, or maybe when it starts climbing again.

The instinct to say that the housing market will not reach the prices it did before this nightmare is pretty strong. But we said that after the last housing market collapse in the eighties, and it did, in fact it climbed a shitload higher. Also during that peak in the eighties interest rates were silly high, maybe once it climbs again this time they'll ramp up interest rates to keep it more sensible. Also, I still reckon some major changes in regulation are on the way, not just in terms of how credit is traded but investment banking in general.

Edit : I wouldnt be surprised if the auction includes some sort of deal for banks to buy their own debts back rather than being held hostage to a third party owning them.