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There are some religions, or people within religions, that don't bother with trying to extrapolate where we came from (genesis, evolution) or where we're 'going', they just concentrate on putting a philosophy into practice here and now.

I get so weary of hearing the Xtian right blather on with their insipid constructs. There are some who've even gone so far as to create street maps of the 'heavenly city'. And plenty others who swallow these literalist, wildly speculative inventions as fact.

The 'Book' has, for many reasons, outlived it's usefulness. Certainly, the only really important thing faith has to offer anymore is a framework for community. Religion really should quit mucking about with the how's and when's. If it wants to deal with 'why's' that's an intangible that doesn't infringe on science- they're welcome to play in that 'lab' all they like, as long as it's understood that prehistoric metaphors don't have any place in the science classroom or in secular government.

"There are some religions, or people within religions, that don't bother with trying to extrapolate where we came from (genesis, evolution) or where we're 'going', they just concentrate on putting a philosophy into practice here and now."

That'll be a big proportion of the congregation and clergy of the Church of England then! I'm sure a lot of them find all this supernatural stuff a bit of an embarrassment and would be much more comfortable just sticking with Love thy Neighbour. Let's face it, for all but the less educated, Darwin screwed the message up forever and the church has never managed to put it together adequately, even to their own satisfaction. You can tell - even people as clever as bishops tend to squirm under close questioning.