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I did. What I am saying is that to me, the main thrust of your posts thus far seem to imply and enforce the perception that anyone on employment benefits seems to be sitting on their arse watching Trisha or some such.

Yes, there is voluntary work, there are the samaritans et al. but some people manage to 'do' stuff i.e. actively attempt things to create their own situation and opportunities even outside the traditional remits of voluntary work and the things that you list. And take it from one who knows, some of the things that pass themselves off as 'adult training' and/or 'retraining' would make your toes curl. Now we are talking pointless and demeaning.

Yes, also the 'dependency' bit is (often) less to do with getting money for FA and more to do with a fear of change. Like it or lump it, Blair's 'New Deal' did help quite few I know, little practical things like a free suit for an interview, a mobile phone, help with paying the rent until the wages come in. Some I know even got extra money to buy groceries and help with energy bills. Don't know the state of things now as far as that goes, but I do speak from what I actually know. I'm sure also New Deal made just as many people weep, just to keep myself clear;-)

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Infact New Deal also included some of the goofy, soul mushing training schemes you speak of.

So I redressed that one myself I guess:-)

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