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That it's the fuel that fires the vast majority of problems that require police intervention or results in losses of all sorts, lives, property, respect, etc... is completely irrefutable.

I recall an evening spent arguing about the blatant hypocrisies in society's asymmetric approach to drugs and alcohol with the older members of my family. They are all 'respectable' members of the establishment society. And their argument consisted entirely of the arbitrary belief that alcohol is not prohibited because it is the commonly accepted substance that the western world tolerates, nothing more. End of discussion.

I think the 'War on Drugs' is merely a way for the far larger, alcohol-using majority to deny their own substance abuse by finding a 'worse' one to use as a scapegoat. The irony is that they are fully cognizant of the heavy price society pays for both legalization AND prohibition, but policy isn't usually based on science, it's based on prejudices in favor or alcohol, and against 'counterculture drugs'.

The best example of how education can cut down on use (rather than the heavy-handed incarceration method) is in the big decline in tobacco use. Regulating it, stopping kids from getting started, banning it from public places, all have had a big effect.

There's a conspicuous lack of public awareness advertising about the dangers of drinking, compared to anti-tobacco ads. Drunk driving ads, yes, even 'drink responsibly' added to alcoholic beverage ads. But I can't recall ever seeing an ad that says 'drinking is potentially hazardous to your health' outside of the don't-drink-and-drive ads.

handofdave wrote:
I think the 'War on Drugs' is merely a way for the far larger, alcohol-using majority to deny their own substance abuse by finding a 'worse' one to use as a scapegoat
Why use the term 'abuse' Dave? If you mean those whose drinking has meant their lives have spiralled out of control, sure. But I 'use' alcohol, I don't abuse it. I probably drink way over my accepted levels but then thay chages every blimmin week anyway.

I get pissed sometimes, which to me is using it in the right and proper way! I get happy, a bit dumb assed, but never, never want to hurt anyone.
Now if there was something definitive in alcohol that caused that, I would be hurtung people, so it really is down to individual tolerance, you've got to accept that surely. We cannot ever penalise the majority cause of a rotten minority.

I don't see the point in always 'comparing' alcohol to drug use either (which even I know isn't always 'drug abuse'!)
Alot of folks are scared of drugs through conditioning /lack of exposure etc as much as anything I reckon.

I would however totally clamp down on anyone whose crime involved alcohol consumption, be it driving, fighting whatever. Because of the misery their behaviour causes, and if the are repeat offenders (often the case) I would like to see the introduction of either jail or the option of voluntary 'antabuse' injections, I'm serious there. Something radical has to be done, because there are hoards out there for who alcohol is no good.

I still say it's partly down to cultural ignorance too (see France and kids round the table for wine - sounds bloody sensible to me).

I find it a bit mournful hardly anyone wants to speak up in favour of the old sauce these days. Now off to open one of those lovely bottles:-)


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