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"So what, you actually like Van Halen? Right, I get you. Irony, is it? Oh ha ha ha. Brilliant. "You really got me" there, fella."

Please decide if your going to be an adult (as the first half of your post indicates) or not ;). Julians entire championing of cock rock strikes me as Irony, oh hahaha, post modern bullshit frankly.

Yep, I liked Van Halen, and as I said, I got better. I was only ten at the time, and it was righteous rebellious music to a ten year old me. Much like slipnot is to my kids.

Yep, usually when I don't dig the album of the month
I shutup about it, check my lack of posts on the last few. I only posted to this in order to support Murrays comments, there has been an anti posture rock pro posture rock thing going on here for ages. This is just an extension of that. We're all thrashing about here wondering which direction rock should take, and some of us think going backwards isn't it. This is a VALID discussion, and as most of us are extremely passionate about music it's going to get out of hand.

What you have to realise is, that as the webmaster that when you start attacking people you're actually throwing a lot of weight around, and you end up coming accross as the thought police. So you spent 2 hours putting it up and some of us bitched.. er.. boohoo.. criticism is part of life. My work gets slagged off more than occasionally, I've never bitched back with the defence 'but, but it took me ages...'. It shouldn't touch you. If it does then it's your problem not ours.

Okay sometimes we're negative, but also a lot of the time we're very positive here. If you want to be the 'vibe police' then that's fine by me. But it will royally fuck up open discussion won't it ? 'Oh, best not post that, Holy will get upset with me'

You'ld be better off using an alias to do such things. I'm sorry, but unlike the other forums here , the people on this one rarely doff their cap to each other and go away quietly.

Another fucking weekend of this kind of debate, great.

I take your point completely about me posting as webmaster appearing as some kind of thought police but I don't give a fuck what people think about whatever type of music - for the vast majority of time I stay out of Unsung because very little of the discussion interests me - but I do have a problem with this kind of reactionary bollocks.

Your example about your work is a great one. Yeah people might say, "Hmm no, I don't like that track" but if they listened to one of your tracks and said, "You're a fucking wanker" - to get that personal - your nose might be put out of joint a little more.

While the Unsung discussion is easily sustained on this site, the reviews section is not. As I'm sure you found contributing your own review, it's a big deal and a lot of effort. Heavy contributors like Julian and Seth Man (amongst a few others) - the guys who are injecting the real gnosis into this site - frequently get little or no reaction to their reviews on the forum and while it's not their raison d'etre, I'm sure they consquently don't need a great deal of reasons to not do it at all. And again, I'm not talking about whether or not you like the music they're reviewing. That's not my issue here at all.

Anyway you've apologised (or said you were being ironic (unless you were nesting your irony, of course)) for the personal comment and that's what I had the biggest problem with. Please slag Van Halen off until the cows come home.

H