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Got to be the Billy Duffy Manc connection methinks.

Personally it depends on my mood. Morrison was a bigger wanker but at least he could pen a good pop tune.

The only wrong Joy Division ever committed was turning into New Order.

Why was it that JD live were an awesome, dynamic & dignified affair yet I've seen NO numerous time & they've been a crock of shite every bloody time?

At last someone else in the country who thinks New order are absolutely shite, they are along with retro crap like The Stone Roses esp Ian Brown given an almost mythical status by music hacks over here particularly the NME , it seems that they are immune to criticism which rankles when they are compared to JD an absolute load of manure.