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moss wrote:
Howburn Digger wrote:
The high walls were for keeping the near endless, scouring winds out methinks. Even today houses still use the same system of having walls to keep the wind and cold at bay.
Even within the little sunken (out of the wind) dwellings at Skara Brae, the houses have little seperated cells, tiny doorways and walled off bed recesses to cut down on the drafts.
My Uncle Jimmy once owned an old fish smokehouse at Ayr Harbour (on the Newtoin-on-Ayr side of the River Ayr). There were three hearth areas for the small wood fires/ smoker ovens above and there were four doorways! There were a few broken tools lying around too. Was it a temple?
'Was it a temple? Who knows, constant theorising on religions gives little ground for the day to day living requirements of all communities, food preparation, clothes making, tool making etc also had to happen. I suppose evidence found, such as, was there a 'closing down' of the presumed religious building which acknowledged new use of bronze culminating in a great feast of hundreds of slaughtered cattle, it is all good dramatic 'evidence' but did it happen that way?
I have a problem with religious interpretation of sites, sometimes I think ideas are coloured by the prevailing mode of thinking but it is such a spectacular site, bounded on either side by water and surrounded by a high wall, and as you say the reason being to keep the wind out, and maybe defensive....
Those massive walls look more like sea defence walls to me! Any evidence to show that the water level was much higher then? The Ring of Brodgar is banked up as well isn't it I recall?

Sanctuary wrote:
moss wrote:
Howburn Digger wrote:
The high walls were for keeping the near endless, scouring winds out methinks. Even today houses still use the same system of having walls to keep the wind and cold at bay.
Even within the little sunken (out of the wind) dwellings at Skara Brae, the houses have little seperated cells, tiny doorways and walled off bed recesses to cut down on the drafts.
My Uncle Jimmy once owned an old fish smokehouse at Ayr Harbour (on the Newtoin-on-Ayr side of the River Ayr). There were three hearth areas for the small wood fires/ smoker ovens above and there were four doorways! There were a few broken tools lying around too. Was it a temple?
'Was it a temple? Who knows, constant theorising on religions gives little ground for the day to day living requirements of all communities, food preparation, clothes making, tool making etc also had to happen. I suppose evidence found, such as, was there a 'closing down' of the presumed religious building which acknowledged new use of bronze culminating in a great feast of hundreds of slaughtered cattle, it is all good dramatic 'evidence' but did it happen that way?
I have a problem with religious interpretation of sites, sometimes I think ideas are coloured by the prevailing mode of thinking but it is such a spectacular site, bounded on either side by water and surrounded by a high wall, and as you say the reason being to keep the wind out, and maybe defensive....
Those massive walls look more like sea defence walls to me! Any evidence to show that the water level was much higher then? The Ring of Brodgar is banked up as well isn't it I recall?
I was really enjoying the programme till MPP popped up with his daft theory once again.

Sanctuary wrote:
moss wrote:
Howburn Digger wrote:
The high walls were for keeping the near endless, scouring winds out methinks. Even today houses still use the same system of having walls to keep the wind and cold at bay.
Even within the little sunken (out of the wind) dwellings at Skara Brae, the houses have little seperated cells, tiny doorways and walled off bed recesses to cut down on the drafts.
My Uncle Jimmy once owned an old fish smokehouse at Ayr Harbour (on the Newtoin-on-Ayr side of the River Ayr). There were three hearth areas for the small wood fires/ smoker ovens above and there were four doorways! There were a few broken tools lying around too. Was it a temple?
'Was it a temple? Who knows, constant theorising on religions gives little ground for the day to day living requirements of all communities, food preparation, clothes making, tool making etc also had to happen. I suppose evidence found, such as, was there a 'closing down' of the presumed religious building which acknowledged new use of bronze culminating in a great feast of hundreds of slaughtered cattle, it is all good dramatic 'evidence' but did it happen that way?
I have a problem with religious interpretation of sites, sometimes I think ideas are coloured by the prevailing mode of thinking but it is such a spectacular site, bounded on either side by water and surrounded by a high wall, and as you say the reason being to keep the wind out, and maybe defensive....
Those massive walls look more like sea defence walls to me! Any evidence to show that the water level was much higher then? The Ring of Brodgar is banked up as well isn't it I recall?
Sea levels were lower in orkney in the Neolithic hence the likelihood of finding monuments in what is now shallow water . A circular feature 90 m in diameter was found to the south of Brodgar a couple of years ago .