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GLADMAN wrote:
tjj wrote:
I've just caught up with the first two episodes of this superb little programme. Martha Kearney traces the footsteps of 19th century geologist and antiquarian George Victor Du Noyer who, in the mid 19th century set about drawing the geological features, ancient monuments and historical buildings of Ireland. In episode 1, while visiting Skibereen, Martha talks about the Great Famine although Du Noyer seemed to omit this devastating episode in Ireland's history from his drawings. She later visits the Bog of Allen where we learn about their formation and flora, we also get a fleeting look at some 'bog bodies' finds. Episode 2 is about Northern Ireland including Giant's Causeway. Not strictly in the category of archaeological but fascinating viewing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b054c5gv

Really enjoyed the first of these... although it brought back memories of staring with an stunned mind/aching heart at the cemetery at Skibereen...before consoling myself at Reansecreena that what's done is done, albeit never forgotten.

Following research, I believe that one of the prime architects of that horror, Charles Trevelyan, was actually acting in accordance with what he held to be right as an economist. As an economist. Needless to say, perhaps an economist was, er, not the best choice to dictate policy in an humanitarian crisis? The Victorian imperialist arrogance cannot be comprehended. Hence...

"The real evil with which we have to contend is not the physical evil of the Famine, but the moral evil of the selfish, perverse and turbulent character of the people. [Charles Trevelyan]"

I enjoyed the first episode best too (watched it after the second one). As is pointed out in that first episode, the anger felt by the survivors of the Famine and their descendants fueled the later rebellion against their British oppressors. One of the best books I've read about the Great Famine is 'Star of the Sea' by Joseph O'Connor which, although a novel, refers to Victorian publications and uses illustrations around at the time which would now be considered completely racist.
On a lighter note, I loved Martha Kearney's visit to the Bog of Allen which probably deserved an episode all to itself.

tjj wrote:
I enjoyed the first episode best too (watched it after the second one). As is pointed out in that first episode, the anger felt by the survivors of the Famine and their descendants fueled the later rebellion against their British oppressors. One of the best books I've read about the Great Famine is 'Star of the Sea' by Joseph O'Connor which, although a novel, refers to Victorian publications and uses illustrations around at the time which would now be considered completely racist.
On a lighter note, I loved Martha Kearney's visit to the Bog of Allen which probably deserved an episode all to itself.
It's really hard to appreciate the mindset of an imperialist administrator - although reading Orwell's experiences in India is perhaps a good starting point - not comprehending that treating people like animals will eventually result in insurrection. I may well be making a wild generalisation, but my experiences travelling around Ireland and knocking on doors led me to believe that the Irish were/are(?) not really that concerned who governs them as long as the administration is fair and doesn't interfere too much in their lives. I understand that the IRA arriving at your farm was often something to be feared every bit as much as a Crossley tender full of Black and Tans.... something I learned foolishly asking 'what happened' pointing to gaunt ruins in the garden of a B&B in Kilkenny. Some people on both sides of a divide will always hijack higher ideals for self profit and a naked lust for power and violence. The list is endless, from Lenin, Guevara, Mao to seemingly just about every modern politician. Why the British leaders decided they needed to execute and make martyrs of the leaders of such a tragi-comic farce as the Easter Rising is beyond belief. No one benefited. I was watching a programme on Irish music a week or so back during which Sinead O'Connor said that kicking the British out of southern Ireland merely replaced a brutal, out of touch regime with an authoritarian dictatorship by the Catholic church....