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nigelswift wrote:
ironstone wrote:
what's the real (as opposed to ideal) alternative?
The entirely real alternative is to build the tunnel a bit longer, say 4.5 miles instead of a niggardly 2.9 miles.

This can't be claimed to be technically impossible as we built a rail tunnel of 4.5 miles under the Severn 150 years ago.

Nor can it be claimed to be too expensive as we are going to build a tunnel for HS2 under the Chilterns which will be 10 miles long.

Hi Nigel, you know I'm your biggest fan but have to say in this instance I totally disagree. I do not understand why the Government has agreed to spend all this money (plus ++) on such a controversial road/tunnel scheme that benefits only the south of England at a time when the country has gone deeper and deeper into debt to keep afloat during these historically awful times. A monumental folly.

Small wonder Scotland wants to break loose.

No June, I'M my biggest fan!

But yes, not doing it at all is the logical option and putting up with/managing the queues for now (especially as Zoom has reduced the need) until that and many other road upgrades certainly won't be needed in 50 years.

Incidentally Highways England has a dirty little tactic of scheduling road works and advising people to divert through local villages at holiday times which adds to the fun.

I think holiday delays are annoying but on an annualised basis are miniscule and a lot less than many other places. No sign of these brigands adding another lane to the M25, why's that? As they know very well, bigger roads attract traffic, so often do no good, that's why!