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"Americans are much better at complaining"

which is true, probably because they have better manners than us.. the English suppress their feelings, or go over the top and explode. But to return to the subject of bad behaviour at stones... is'nt it because they are the "new religion" a recently discovered "where to go to on a sunday afternoon, an outing with tea and buns at the end. It was ever so at Stonehenge with victorian parties and cycling parties, TMAers can't have it both ways, either a place of solitude to contemplate the vast wonders of life, or well-behaved restrained tourists; the noisy children, new religions and hippies will all ways be part of the show.
I refuse to get grumpy as I get older... ;)

"Americans are much better at complaining"

which is true, probably because they have better manners than us...

Yes, contrary to what some might think Americans are, generally, very polite (loud perhaps but polite :-) Interrupting people when they are talking for example is a definite no no for most Americans, yet something you hear all the time on TV and radio here.

Sorry... what was the theme of this thread again? I forget, but you're right about bad behaviour at stones and a 'new' religion. People don't seem to have worked out the parameters of good behaviour for these places yet. So why don't people fall back on accepted parameters? Respect for ancient places and other people who visit them would be a starting point. Surely it doesn't require a degree in rocket science to know that climbing one of the stones in the Cove, for example, might not only be dangerous and damaging, but might also offend people who regard such places as sacred.

There's something else at work here, and selfish stupidity are just the first two words that come to mind.