Thanks FourWinds.

I am going to try to be polite and well behaved for as long as possible (probably not very long then)

The producer of that prog was a bit miffed cos apparantly aubrey burl has written that you can see Scafell from Swinside. They wanted to get some shots of the distant factory from the alleged trading place... Either burl is VERY tall , or he hasn't actually been there...

ps Mr K , if any of my photos come out Ill try to work out how to post one so you can get another look at the axe shape.

cx