Can you run that passed me again please :-).

Seriously, I know where you're coming from FW, but you'll excuse me for not wanting to be there. I know most of us need our heating and lighting and radio and TV and computers but personally I try to keep that energy consumption to the mininum. I grow my own cucumbers, onions and potatoes etc because that's what I both want and need. I neither want nor need a heated loo seat (I've got one of those warm seat covers just in case it ever gets really cold :-).

If it ever came to the crunch I've got enough fuel to keep the house warm for a couple of weeks and enough food on the allotment and in the shed to keep me going for the same lengh of time - dunno about you but that's all I really 'need'.