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"When Exeter was a furzey down,
Denbury was a borough town."


This little couplet crops up all over the south west it seems....I have come across it in Saltash in connection with Plymouth and also In Polruan in connection with Fowey. The similarities tend to be that the older settlement has been left behind by a more prosperous settlement.

Considering Plymouth, as a unified name, did not come about until the early 1900s (before that it was made up of three towns, Stonehouse, Devonport and Plymouth and then expanded greatly after the bombing of WWII) I wonder where the saying originated?

Mr H

PS I suppose this is a little off topic but...

"the older settlement has been left behind by a more prosperous settlement"
That's true.. But the way I'd interpret it is the opposite way round, that somewhere that we now consider civilised and busy was once just a furzy field. And that we should remember that civilised places can return to furzy fields. Stuff about the circling of history and suchlike? and that the people there were like us, rather than us being different and better.

Although the Saltash/Plymouth thing isn't quite the same because Saltash looks like it's still rather thriving.. so that's a different one.

I guess a handy saying like that easily gets passed around, like the variations in kids' rhymes in playgrounds according to region. I'm sure I've added a number of them but can't remember where they are (the search didn't turn up much).

A Derbyshire version...

"When Chesterfield was heath and broom,
Leash Fen was a market town,
Now Leash Fen is all heath and broom
And Chesterfield a market town"