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Sanctuary Nov 11, 2014 14:03:06

Replying to nigelswift

nigelswift wrote:

Sanctuary wrote:

So that would be a very small amount of dowsers that you are basing all your information on then. Maybe the others have read all the ridicule dished out at those that came forward so keep well away. Can't say I blame them. Right, must get on.

We've been here before. You really shouldn't fall back on the old chestnut of "aggressive cynicism prevents them proving it". It's the lack of ability to prove it that prevents them proving it (despite endless polite invitations, massive financial incentives and the promise of their own TV shows, worldwide fame and immortality!)

Okay Nigel, please enlighten us by revealing how many EXACTLY of the 1000's of dowsers out there have shown this 'lack of ability' as you seem to know so much about them. At least I'm honest enough to say I know feck all much about them but do know that you have to be pretty committed to get off your arse every weekend and get out in the field in all weathers to carry out what for them is a serious hobby. Beats sitting in your armchair or looking at a computer screen and googling away to gain your information from like many do!

tiompan Nov 11, 2014 14:26:53

Replying to Sanctuary

Sanctuary wrote:

nigelswift wrote:

Sanctuary wrote:

How many have done what they say they can do ?
i.e. ""Basically if you are able to name and describe something that existed the dowser can find where it was."

Do you know of any dowsers who have actually discovered anything under test conditions ?, a pot of ring pulls will do . Non dowsers find stuff all the time including previously unrecorded archaeology in places where it might not be expected i.e. not the major monument honeypots .It could be due to luck , graft , planning you name it but the finders never suggest dowsing .
Simply because lots of punters do something they enjoy doesn't mean that it is efficacious .

nigelswift Nov 11, 2014 15:52:12

Replying to Sanctuary

"Okay Nigel, please enlighten us by revealing how many EXACTLY of the 1000's of dowsers out there have shown this 'lack of ability'"

Normally an exact number would be hard to come up with, but not in this case as I know of exactly none who have shown that ability to others (based on my personal observation and Googling. Under controlled conditions, that is.) I'm prepared to bet my caravan against your house that that's the EXACT number you know too!

Being committed and getting off your arse every weekend doesn't make throwing knucklebones an effective form of futurology or dowsing a real phenomenon.

"Beats sitting in your armchair or looking at a computer screen and googling away to gain your information from like many do!"

If that's a dig at me so be it but you should know I've been interested in dowsing for many, many years since before Bill Gates had a pot to piss in and I do know a bit about it! As does George. Why demonise us (which is what's coming across loud and clear)? Don't you think we'd RATHER it was proved to be a real phenomenon? You'd have to be bonkers not to wish it was.