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Sanctuary wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
I've never really 'got' the past lives thing.
I consider myself to be a reasonably rational, logical person and I enjoy keeping an open mind about all aspects of 'unexplained natural or supernatural phenomena', but I really struggle with what is meant by a 'past life'.

I understand that the 'past life' is most often discovered under some sort of hypnosis, correct?
What I totally fail to understand, and bear with me here, is where is/was the awareness of the 'consciousness' of that past life?
I'm going to make an assumption here - This is, the present, the only time we are all aware of a consciousness. A 'me' if you like. A 'life' we are living. So my question to the past life people would be is the past life a 'memory', an image that is viewed as distant or disconnected or was it lived "entirely", meaning as aware then of the 'type' of consciousness we have right now in our lives.

I'm sorry for all the inverted commas and the vague language but its a difficult thing to convey. Also trying to type this quickly on an ipad, which doesn't help!

To put it a different way in order that I might be understood - Was the past life 'lived' as this life is now? Was it as 'real' as this life? And, if so, why is it that this life is the only time we all feel 'aware' of a life, a consciousness.

I probably won't be able to get back on here til tomorrow, but if anybody is willing to share their past life experience and give me an answer, I'd be grateful!

I've never once thoughjt I'd lived before either and I don't get influenced by those that say I would have done. If others feel they have then that's fine by me as they obviously feel they have so who am I to argue with them. People go through all sorts of experiences in their lives, many that others don't understand or believe.
My mother woke up one morning about two years before she died at 85 and told me that she had been 'visited' overnight and told that she had been 'chosen' to sit on the RHS of God when she passed on. It made her remaining two years the happiest I had ever seen her for years since my father had died. It was her belief and hers alone and who was I to question it. Others probably have similar experiences but I can't explain it and doubt others can to be truthfull just guess at it.
Its not about seeking to be influenced, im attempting to understand why some people believe they have lived a past life. I have my own thoughts on it, but I'm keen to hear what those people have to say, rather than just dismiss it.

Evergreen Dazed wrote:
I'm keen to hear what those people have to say, rather than just dismiss it.
Well, for what it’s worth, here’s my take on the topic -

I was about 18 at the time (nearly 50 years ago for the ageists ;-) and, under hypnosis, was asked to identify an object that had earlier (without my being present) been wrapped and placed in a cardboard box. I was allowed to touch the box but not move it. First guess of what was inside the box was a toy car (it wasn’t a toy car, but the box had once contained a real automobile part). Second guess was ‘descriptive’ more than actually saying what the object was. The description, word-for-word, was that the object was, “Pear-shaped but flat, and not ‘round’ like a real pear. It was also hard, grey and smooth (but not very smooth.)”

That was it as far as identifying the object in the box. The ‘count out’ from the hypnotic state was slowly delivered by the hypnotist - 10, 9, 8... Then something weird happened. A very real sensation of being in a ‘different place’. I was standing on a hilltop with another man. The wind was blowing through our long hair. I was holding whatever was in the box above my shoulder and looking out across rolling downland. The count out continued... 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. A click of the hypnotist's fingers and I was ‘back’ and feeling a bit disorientated.

The box was opened. Inside was a ‘pear-shaped’ Neolithic axe head.

I’m not saying I was reliving a past life experience; if we believe in telepathy I might have been picking up thoughts from the person who had placed the axe in the box, or perhaps picking up something from the axe itself. I don’t know, but the story has a postscript. Years later I found myself standing on Waden Hill (just outside Avebury for those who don’t know it) with my brother. The wind was blowing through our hair as we looked out towards West Kennet Long Barrow. The feeling at the time wasn’t quite one of deja vue, more one of a circle being completed... I’ve had similar feelings in circumstances different to that one - almost like having a situation ‘presented’ again because I couldn’t/didn’t work it out correctly the first time. Don’t get me wrong, I’m an atheist through-and-through but, the concept of the soul (if not its transmigration) is one shared by most, if not all, religions and (for me at least) it provides a possible explanation of things presently beyond our understanding.

So, though I might come over as being hyper-sceptical of the ‘unknown’ and ‘unproven’ I’m not. The above experience, along with one other, allows for the possibility of multiple unknown ‘whatever's’ in my philosophy - I’m just not that keen on banging on about them.