SL, I pressed the wrong buttons and I think the Eds tidied up but both my posting and your reply got lost. My point was that there is a third group, the 60% that don't report. I take your point about you buyng the stuff, it probably doesn't stimulate nighthawking or non-recording much. The high value transactions do of course. Renfrew said collectors are the real looters and it's got to be right.