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This thread has been subverted. Fourwinds asked, "was [Anglesey] the centre of the world?".

Having poured over celestial bodies and snakes we could always discuss the archaeological and historical evidence (crazy idea I know). What is there to indicate that Ynys Môn (call it Anglesey if you must) was any more of a focal point than, say Cornwall* or Pembrokeshire**? Not a lot.

What the Romans did up there tends to colour our perception of the place. It's all too easy to make assumptions about the importance of Anglesey based on a romanticised idea of scary Celts fighting bad old Roman soldiers. While it would seem likely that there was something big happening there during the latter part of the Iron Age, what evidence is there that the island was an exceptional focal point before that?

Druids aside, how does Anglesey differ from other agriculturally rich areas on the west coast? I'd argue it doesn't differ greatly. It's a wealthy slab of land with the farming surpluses to support a specialisation of labour. Very 'des res', but so are a lot of other places. The obvious trade routes with Ireland are not dissimilar to those that ran through Cornwall, Pembrokeshire, Cumbria, the Isle of Man*** and large chunks of Scotland**** (I'll stop the asterisks now - it's getting silly).

The factor that stands out is the defensive quality of the island. It has the Snowdonia mountain range as a natural defence, and when you add the mountains to the Menai Straits you get a tidy stronghold. That's what it comes down to I reckon - location location location!. Maybe not the best place to live in times of peace (nasty dual carriageways and people speaking in spiky Gog accents), but a great place to defend.

K x

* Kernow
** Sir Benfro
*** Mann
**** Alba

For those who haven't read it 'The Sea Kingdoms': Alistair Moffat, is an excellent introduction into how sea travel was a key to the Celtic Kingdoms.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0002572168/002-3498906-4742427?v=glance&n=283155

As an aside, standing in the killing zone of Beaumaris Castle, Edward 1st's
(Boo! Hiss!) almost perfect defensive monument is one of the few places where I've actually felt an 'atmosphere'. A 'hair standing on the back of the neck' type of atmosphere.

Or, may just have been a draft ;-)

I think Holyhead stack is part of the object on the horizon inclined at by the smallest of the Smithills stone rows (for the southernmost moonset). The row's placed in the most remote windswept location, of the parish, and must have been a pain to stand around at. So I think they thought it was the centre of the world, or somewhere pretty important, then.

If the island was the last stronghold of the druids then you could expect that that was where the stones were 'maintained' last. There are some wonderful standing stones on the island and an old 1" OS map will show a lot of them. There are so many stones that it is fair to describe the place, now, as 'relatively unexplored'. In not too many years it's all going under the sea !

I reckon the value lies in its flatness and fertility contrasted with the mountainous land opposite. The land must have been so much more productive than the leached out and vertical uplands. Drier too as it still is. Any thoughts on its English name? Island of the Angles or island in an angle? (the latter is the meaning of Anglesey in the Cambridgeshire fens)

Coming back to the original question - pass. Central as a trading centre?

"this thread has been subverted"
Is fourwinds, also called elderford ?
K.

>> Fourwinds asked, "was [Anglesey] the centre of the world?".

He bloody didn't! :-)