"The damage caused by motorcycles and 4x4s used on public rights of way by the public (not the landowners) is very small in comparison" this is true for now but if loads did it, it would be a different story, i really agree with - it's a few idiots that gives it a bad name, just like other stuff. We would all agree that they need a places to do it, like someone said they do with paintballing or race tracks on farms, it needs sorting out where they can and where they can't, mountains are sacred so should always be a no no.