The point I was trying to make is we've talked about this before and it gets us nowhere, and never can, unless you protest loudly and unceasingly. Of course its insensitive to say the very least to be using henges and hill forts as a BMX track or whatever , and yes i've seen the mess they can make but I don't really recall any damage to an ancient place, perhaps I've successfully blanked it out. These places in the Peak, (and i'm not far away) I confess I don't know much about, but is it expressly forbidden to do off roading there ? where should they go to do it, if walking in the countryside was confined to a recognised place how would you feel. How many beaches have forbidden dog walking, gets me does that.

The "Great man" in question was actually a Clint Eastwood character, so it was never real, but the sentiment is real enough, an opinion is only relevant inside the thinkers head, and is only right to them. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, you can opinionate till the cows come home, but its only pertinent to them.

Something else, walking, is it funny how its most enjoyed and espoused by those with no car, my job entails a walk of maybe ten miles a day carrying weight, so I have perhaps a unique view of it. If you had to walk as a job you might see it differently. If I could drive up Carnedd Llewelyn I would.

But like I said, all this gets us nowhere, absolutely nowhere, pointless in the extreme. If I sound bitter and twisted then so be it, my life is by no means an idyllic paradise, and sometimes that lack of happyness bleeds through. Sorry.

One thing for sure is off roading is lots of fun, much more fun than walking