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The triple henge complex at Thornborough, North Yorkshire is under imediate threat from quarrying. See - http://www.friendsofthornborough.org
You can help prevent prevent these activities from destroying any further archaeology by signing our petition at:

http://www.petitiononline.com/Pet10001/petition.html

It tells me I'm the first to sign, of which I'm rather proud! May there be many more. Is there any way that I can help out Brigantes? I have no money, I should point out!

Hi G,
I have signed and have emailed possible interested parties

.o0O0o.

78 signatures so far, anyone else not signed yet?

The ([email protected]) address on the Friends of Thornborough site, to voice complaint to Tarmac, When I tried, It bounced back.

Tarmac's site lists this as the address though.

http://www.tarmac.co.uk/live/welcome.asp?id=296

has a list of regional offices, but no e-mail just Telephone.

George, I don't know if it'll be of any help (I dont get that many hits) but I have put a small appeal and a link to your website from the relevant page on my website at: http://www.janetomlinson.com/earthmagic.asp

Let me know if you want me to change the text.

With love
J
x

Brig,
Today the County Archaeologist responsibe for Thornbourough weighed in with this on another list. Astonished.
Andy

> Dear John and All

It is extremely irresponsible for another curator to promulgate these
kinds of "causes" without first checking with the local curator about
the accuracy of the case.

The Thornborough Henges are not under threat. They are a Scheduled
ancient Monument. The "sacred plateau", which is a construct of a few
local individual's imagination, is also not under threat. The idea of
lakes around the middle and southern henges is a "red herring" put
forward by one or two people who are opposed to wetland conservation and
shooting rights. There are currently no planning applications for, and
not even any discussions about, quarrying around the middle and southern
henges. The last quarrying permission was granted in 1994 and the
closest it comes to the northern henge is 330m. The quarry in which
landfill has occurred was worked in the 1960's, and the landfill
operation was granted some 20 years ago, and is a response to try and
get back to a more normal landscape (rather than a great open void).

The "Friends of Thornborough" web site is full of inaccuracies,
misrepresentations, and false assumptions. Many of the visualised "post
alignments" are figments of peoples' imaginations: the alignments either
don't exist or the pits show no evidence of posts. The "sacred plateau"
is composed of a series of monuments that were never used
contemporaneously, but over 1000-1500 years. The real issue is one of
"stand-off" distance, what is the setting of the henges and what
distance around them should be kept free from development. We have some
informal ideas, but no evidence to support any specific stand-off
distance in a court of law or public inquiry. At present there are
three or four research projects on-going which are looking at various
aspects of the archaeology and palaeo-environmentology of the area
trying to come up with a better understanding of the prehistory of the
area and a better idea of setting or sacred space for the monuments.
But in the meantime, there are no proposals for further quarrying or
landfill, and there is no threat to the monuments. Please do not
believe all you read on Internet web sites. This goes back a couple of
years to the FISH e-conference and my comments in response to Richard
Morris. We need to use our critical faculties more when it comes to
information technology.

If any of you wish to discuss the case in more detail or clarify any
points, then please contact me directly first on (01609) 532330 or
[email protected] . Please do not sign the petition: it
only shows you've swallowed the misrepresentations of the web site hook
line & sinker.

Cheers,
Neil Campling
County Archaeologist
1 September 2003

This petition has wound up North Yorkshire's County Archaeologist who says that there are no planning applications to be submitted, there will be no quarrying and the petition is really to conserve (the as yet uncreated) wetlands and stop hunting.

The petition must be doing its job then.

Cheers

G

Thankfully, we have a single voice in the wilderness:

"This monument complex and the threats posed to it are going to be one of the major
conservation issues of the future, and as I have just spent a week at the henges with
the excavators (Jan Harding and team, from Newcastle Univ.) making a programme
for BBC2 Time Flyers 2, my thoughts as an outsider might be of interest. I must add
that these are not those of the BBC (nor of course will we cover the conservation
issues in the programme).

The first point is that Thornborough is important in national terms - the three main
henges are contemporary and part of a single scheme, and with their double ditches
etc. make them the single largest earthmoving operation in early prehistory (back of
the envelope calculations suggest that it is larger than Avebury and Silbury). They
are remarkable (especially from the air!!).

There are also a site where the astroarchaeology is potentially significant. We deal
with this in our programme, but the important point is that certain celestial alignments
are repeated during several phases - from the cursus to the henges, which does
provide an element of validation. These alignments are picked up in pits in the
landscape - that may have served similiar functions to 'standing stones' on
megalithic sites.

The monuments themselves are in a poor condition - massive animal erosion going
on destroying the banks. Recently they have been fenced off with what looks like a grass runway between the henges. So tightly have the fences been placed, that they
actually run over the top of the outer bank, so I assume that chunks of the SAM lie
outside the fence!! This fence looks suspicously like a 'line drawn in the sand' here is
archaeology - everything outside can go......

The trouble is that that the landscape around is also part of the monument - as is
clear from the Newcastle work. Pits, ring ditches, features whereever one looks, are
coming up from the excavations and the plough zone is full of flint scatters. This is of
course is no surprise to those familar with the Avebury and Stonehenge landscapes,
but at Thornborough, because of heavy ploughing and deep ploughsoil, geophysics
does really work well, and there are few earthworks, beyond the henges.

The local newspaper reported that a new planning application for an extension of
the quarry has just been submitted. It looks as if there is going to be a whole series
of applications which will leave the henges on an 'island' surrounded by open gravel
pits over the next 20 years. It is also doubtful if there is going to be much rescue
archaeology in advance of this - a recent application at another nearby quarry at
Nosterfield resulted in a 5% sample evaluation before quarrying.

As a profession we need to face up whether we are prepared to see these
prehistoric landscapes go (with or without archaeology) leaving the monument
literally on a island. Perhaps the contrast with Stonehenge is instructive. Here we
have argued that we must have a bored tunnel costing an extra £150 million, to
preserved a strip of landscape archaeology intact, yet at Thornborough it seems that
planners are seriously considering the complete destruction of the prehistoric
landscape. A north-south divide perhaps?

Anyway, our new series is starting up again midweek from the middle of October, for
8 programmes. See you there!"

Mark Horton

Just bringing this back up to the top.

How goes it, BN?

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Wayne: A recent crop circle at Thornborough Henge in North Yorkshire, England, is directly adjacent to what has been termed ³one of the most important² ancient sites. Can you tell us if this new crop circle has a message related to this ancient site? (http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/003/Thornborough/Thornborough003 .html) (This link is only for subscribers)


In the center of the crop circle is a circle with a dot in the center, so to speak. And this is the symbol of the great I AM. It represents the presence of God. And the arcs around the outside of the circle are the lotus blossoms.

The message is that it is time for the portal of the ancient site to be reopened. The lotus blossom is the symbol of the heart charka and also the crown lotus. The heart connects you with your high self and your soul and the crown lotus connects you with your galactic brothers and sisters. And so the message is that it is time to reconnect, first with their own energy grid and then with their galactic grids.

From here:

http://www.fourwinds10.com/news/14-spiritual/C-specific-channelings/06-kadjina/2003/14C6-07-21-03-lady-kadjina-speaks-07-20-03.html

I am writing to you to ask if you would be able to ask a friend to
sign our
petition? I am painfully aware that this is spam, and unsolicited,
and if
any of you are upset by it please email me back and I will make sure
we do
not email you again, in signing the petition, you have done enough.

Nonetheless we still desperately need your help, if you could find it
in
your heart just to get a single additional signature, we would be very
grateful.

Thank you for your time.

George Chaplin

Sorry, but no. Being painfully aware that this is unsolicited spam and sending it anyway is crass in my opinion. I signed the petition in good faith, and dont expect such causes to act in such a way.

Brigantes, do you mind if I email you?

johan

What do you think?

http://www.friendsofthornborough.org/Merchandise/Christmas.htm

A bit late for the market I know, but I kinda got sidetracked over the last couple of weeks.