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Rhiannon wrote:
If Bryn Walters is such an archaeologist, why is the Swindon Advertiser piece full of such utterly speculative stuff...
Bryn Walters is the Director of the Association for Roman Archaeology. The journalistic spiel sounds about right for this type of reporting, I doubt it follows Bryn's material that closely. I am unconvinced by the 'Woden' figure but this is an issue - British academia is largely departmental if not tribal with experts defending their own knowledge base and with much less awareness of neighboring eras: Bryn's specialism is the Roman age. With regard to Welsh mythology the majority of Britain spoke a Brythonic tongue before the Romans (and the Roman Church) introduced Latin and the Anglo-Saxons introduced West Germanic to eastern Britain, so it would be remarkable if Welsh folk tales such as found in the Mabinogion were not also current throughout the rest of Britain. Welsh place names in southern Britain supports Welsh culture here, such as place names like Dover, Andover and the River Avon. In terms of North Wales, the action you speak of would seem to have taken place on the banks of a tributary of the Cynfael and not the Cynfael itself, the water course in question being the Afon Bryn Saeth. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llech_Ronw

Well that's a politer reply than I probably merit, but I'd still take issue. It assumes some massive things, for example that the Mabinogion is a version of tales from the neolithic, that's like 4000+ years of oral transmission before it was written down. I think there's probably been a few stories involving spears in Britain, in times when we actually used spears. Why would it illustrate the only story about a spear thrower that we've got in this medieval welsh story? Where's the story about white horses to explain the Uffington horse, or the story for the Wilmington figure or the Cerne giant? Stories that explain ancient places (and I've read a few) seem to be short and sweet.

To appeal to the fact Bryn Walters is a Roman specialist (he's not "an academic" as such, he's not a PhD) doesn't cut much mustard when this figure (if it even exists) isn't from the Roman era. It's like when you see celebrities on adverts, just because someone's good at one thing doesn't mean we should assume they have expertise or credibility in another. False appeal to authority innit? (Lethbridge was honorary keeper of Anglo-Saxon antiquities at the Museum of Archaeology and Ethnology in Cambridge, but that doesn't make his Gogmagog figures any more credible.)

It's interesting that his write-up on the ARA site itself says he's a maverick and he's proud to be called that.

Anyway I'll shut up now I've made my stance, and I'll have my owl service on standby with some ketchup if you like.