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bladup Aug 29, 2012 19:47:45
Replying to Sanctuary

Sanctuary wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
Littlestone wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
It's the little wooden steps provided to help you over the wire that make me chuckle. ;)
Doesn’t make me chuckle, any more than the hammers that were once given out at Stonehenge to take a bit of it home. Burn ‘em next time you see them and use the ash as some kind of tat offering.
I happen not to agree with people freely clambering all over the monument, I think any right minded person would understand the potential damage that could be caused if you multiply one persons desire to climb by thousands, especially given the hills recent history.
However.. some people will climb the hill, despite this. I honestly think that to maintain the atmosphere of the place we need to accept that it's going to happen and if you catch somebody doing it or read something on a forum, perhaps the best and only thing to be done is to try to persuade them not to do it again.

I know some here get very irate about this subject but really, what else can be done? Would you like to see some sort of fine imposed? It won't make any difference to somebody who is determined. It may put off the casual climber but how many in number are they?
A huge great horrible fence? Still won't stop it and just spoils it for everybody else.

I'm asking - What would you like to see done to fix this issue?

As long as some people, for commercial reasons, can gain access to the hill, then any objections to others climbing it falls flat, so it has to become the same for everyone unless for a scientific non commercial reason. I feel that is why people are not taken to court because too many precedants have already been created.
Saying no you can't climb it and having steps to get over is confusing for people though, none of this would matter if so called experts hadn't fucked the place up so much, it looks horrible from some angles nowadays, it's not the feet that's fucked it up, it's those so called experts, and what have they found out from wrecking the place- bugger all, that's what.

E Evergreen Dazed
Evergreen Dazed Aug 29, 2012 20:20:01
Replying to bladup

bladup wrote:
Sanctuary wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
Littlestone wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
It's the little wooden steps provided to help you over the wire that make me chuckle. ;)
Doesn’t make me chuckle, any more than the hammers that were once given out at Stonehenge to take a bit of it home. Burn ‘em next time you see them and use the ash as some kind of tat offering.
I happen not to agree with people freely clambering all over the monument, I think any right minded person would understand the potential damage that could be caused if you multiply one persons desire to climb by thousands, especially given the hills recent history.
However.. some people will climb the hill, despite this. I honestly think that to maintain the atmosphere of the place we need to accept that it's going to happen and if you catch somebody doing it or read something on a forum, perhaps the best and only thing to be done is to try to persuade them not to do it again.

I know some here get very irate about this subject but really, what else can be done? Would you like to see some sort of fine imposed? It won't make any difference to somebody who is determined. It may put off the casual climber but how many in number are they?
A huge great horrible fence? Still won't stop it and just spoils it for everybody else.

I'm asking - What would you like to see done to fix this issue?

As long as some people, for commercial reasons, can gain access to the hill, then any objections to others climbing it falls flat, so it has to become the same for everyone unless for a scientific non commercial reason. I feel that is why people are not taken to court because too many precedants have already been created.
Saying no you can't climb it and having steps to get over is confusing for people though, none of this would matter if so called experts hadn't fucked the place up so much, it looks horrible from some angles nowadays, it's not the feet that's fucked it up, it's those so called experts, and what have they found out from wrecking the place- bugger all, that's what.
A bit more than bugger all, but I do see your point.

S Sanctuary
Sanctuary Aug 29, 2012 20:40:46
Replying to bladup

bladup wrote:
Sanctuary wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
Littlestone wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
It's the little wooden steps provided to help you over the wire that make me chuckle. ;)
Doesn’t make me chuckle, any more than the hammers that were once given out at Stonehenge to take a bit of it home. Burn ‘em next time you see them and use the ash as some kind of tat offering.
I happen not to agree with people freely clambering all over the monument, I think any right minded person would understand the potential damage that could be caused if you multiply one persons desire to climb by thousands, especially given the hills recent history.
However.. some people will climb the hill, despite this. I honestly think that to maintain the atmosphere of the place we need to accept that it's going to happen and if you catch somebody doing it or read something on a forum, perhaps the best and only thing to be done is to try to persuade them not to do it again.

I know some here get very irate about this subject but really, what else can be done? Would you like to see some sort of fine imposed? It won't make any difference to somebody who is determined. It may put off the casual climber but how many in number are they?
A huge great horrible fence? Still won't stop it and just spoils it for everybody else.

I'm asking - What would you like to see done to fix this issue?

As long as some people, for commercial reasons, can gain access to the hill, then any objections to others climbing it falls flat, so it has to become the same for everyone unless for a scientific non commercial reason. I feel that is why people are not taken to court because too many precedants have already been created.
Saying no you can't climb it and having steps to get over is confusing for people though, none of this would matter if so called experts hadn't fucked the place up so much, it looks horrible from some angles nowadays, it's not the feet that's fucked it up, it's those so called experts, and what have they found out from wrecking the place- bugger all, that's what.
I'm with you there Bladup and have said it many times myself!