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"Me thinks too many people who feel they should be involved have been overlooked, and as their two penneth isn't wanted, are taking the proverbial hump."

That is rather harsh, as I am sure you will see upon reflection. Since you can't possibly see inside people's heads it might be more appropriate to work on the assumption that they say what they do because they have a sincere belief in what they say.

nigelswift wrote:
...it might be more appropriate to work on the assumption that they say what they do because they have a sincere belief in what they say.
A laudable opinion!

unfortunatly both Scousemaiden and i have met most of you from our time in the Red lion.