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I think it's a fair conclusion to jump to, to be honest!

What are we supposed to think? OK, the job in hand is more important, but with no information forthcoming, what are we supposed to think?

I had 2 prompt replies to my questions a couple of weeks back, which are as follows:

Q: "I read somewhere that a load of old tyres have been removed from the hill, and that whoever excavated or sealed it last would have been fully aware of them being there - is this true?"

A: "There were certainly tyres and other modern bits and pieces within the backfill of the cut made into the Hill to create the 1968 entrance ie outside of the door.

In contrast there have been no objects of any sort found in the aggregate imported onto site to fill the tunnel itself."

Q: "Thanks for getting back to me so promptly... [see? I am grateful!]

Just to satisfy my own curiosity - were there any photos taken of said tyres and other modern bits and pieces, and are they available for public consumption (ie me!)?"

A: "We don't have any photos of the tyres but here is a picture of some of the other finds. The two tobacco tins were found just inside the tunnel doorway and the other tin was in the backfill in front of the door."

I only asked this, as I said, for my own curiosity, and thought it a fairly minor thing in the grand scheme of things, but it got me to thinking... Shouldn't somebody from Skanska/NT/EH be recording all this?

It's a hugely important undertaking, and to not be taking photograpihic records at every turn is surely not a good thing! Even if it's just for historic records!

This is (allegedly, but I'm sure I'm not alone in my scepticism) the last time anyone's going to open, enter, fill and close Silbury Hill. What will history say? "We opened the door, found some baccy tins and a bit of antler, filled it then shut it!"?

Hardly worth the astronomical cost, IMO...

So... Those of use who live too far out for regular visits to the hill rely on this resource for our updates. If they don't supply them, we can only assume what is or isn't happening.

G x

PS - Then... Oh, yes, THEN... "they" (the "owners" of Silbury Hill) are "allowing" people (as mentioned previously in this thread) to climb up "their" hill to play some musical instruments! But don't let's lose that little one in this thread, eh? ;o)

goffik wrote:
I think it's a fair conclusion to jump to, to be honest!
Received exactly one week ago...

"Dear Mr Jesus-I-Wish-You-Would-Stop-Bugging-Me

Thank-you for your interest in the project.

It is unfortunate that we don't have any film clips available yet but now that the project has been going for a while we can see what the frequently asked questions are and will put these, and our answers, on-line for next week.

The updates are simply brief illustrated summaries of the previous weeks work.

This is a project which stimulates many debates about differing conservation-related issues, with cogent arguments for many positions. Our view on the 'time capsule' is that this does no harm to the Hill and is a means for schoolchilden and their families to engage with and become more aware of their local historic environment.

best regards

Silbury project archaeological team"

One week on and no Q&A, just lots of Q.

And in case anyone thought Mr Angry was going to let it lie, my reply to the time capsule evasive replies:

"I find your reply to the question of the time capsule stunning to say the least. To say it does no harm betrays a total lack of foresight. Its very existence will prove to be a problem many years into the future, something English Heritage should be aware of. The fact that EH are NOT aware of the potential problems involved is scary.

Leaving a Time Capsule within the hill is hardly going to cause problems with future archaeology, as the contents will be recorded and publicly available. Therefore, with foresight, no archaeologist will want to dig it up.

However, how about the local school which will take part, you really expect them not to take a regular interest? Let's see, there's 2017, 2027, 2037...need I go on? Every time an anniversary comes round, someone will suggest digging up their precious little capsule. But why bother, when the contents are recorded and well-known?

Pointless is about the best word I could come up with - the whole exercise smacks of self-satisfying actions by a few men-in-suits with little real planning or consideration for the future of the hill.

The main question should be "Who do EH think will be digging this up in the future, and why?"

This is a terrible decision in many ways. Lack of consultation with non-residents, lack of planning, lack of understanding, but probably most important and worst of all, an action with motives other than good. Satisfying a handful of children does not wash against the storm of protest from several thousand objectors.

I think you're going to find an awful lot of people turning up to voice their protest on the day. I hope you are prepared to be made to look extremely foolish."

It also occurred to me also that over 95% of the children contributing to the capsule won't even be living in the area in 10, 20, 30 years time anyway!

Hmm. Archaeology seems to be a lot of "I know something you don't", IMHO. Why is that, I wonder? What would be the point in holding information and not sharing it?

I look forward to hearing about Silbury in 2008 and 2010. If it's still standing by then.

And god knows if or when we might hear of anything to do with the Avebury dig. 2012, anyone? ;o)

G x