Thanks.

as you rightly said I can see both sides - perhaps this is why Im bothering you all here?! As I see it, there are some perfectly valid arguments for and against, so I am entitled to enquire as to the substance of these arguments, many arguments dont hold water when challenged - isnt this what we should all be doing, not patting ourselves on the back saying how nice we are an EH managers all 'orrible? (Im not saying this IS what has been happening, but I hope you see my point). Not sure EVERYONE disagrees with me though!

regards